Given how Apple's M4 Core can access all of the L2 Cache ( it is shared ) and has a SLC ( System Level Cache ) one could argue it is better to compare it to AMD X3D variant on Cache size. However on Geekbench 6 it is still off by 30-40% per clock. Even if we consider zero performance improvement from M5, it would be a large jump for Zen 6 to catch up.

And that is also the case with Qualcomm's Oryon and ARM's own Cortex X93x series.

Still really looking forward to Zen 6 on server though. I cant wait to see 256 Zen 6c Core.

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alberth 3 days ago | parent [-]

Isn’t Zen fab’ed on nodes sizes Apple used 2-3 years ago (since Apple pays for exclusive rights to TSMC for latest & greatest node sizes).

	▲	ksec 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. N4 or 5nm Class compared to Apple's N3E or 2nd Gen 3nm. But the gap in IPC remains the same regardless of node. AMD could scale higher or has lower energy usage, it still wouldn't change the performance. Not only is the Zen 5 slower, it also uses more energy to achieve the its results. Thinking about that the gap is staggering.