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eastbound 5 days ago

It’s not generations, it’s age ;) Younger generations are still idealists. With age, you get betrayed in your ideals. You discover scientific studies weren’t so scientific as they get turned over one by one. It’s something like: Ice caps will still melt, and everything you did for the better, bad luck, they’ll have increased the warming. Same when we tried to eat better against cancer or raised or fists to defend gay people. I don’t want you to believe you’re generation won’t suffer the same fate ;)

ghushn3 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> With age, you get betrayed in your ideals.

Some of us old-heads got pushed much farther left as a result of this. I used to be a Democrat, blue and blue. These days I'm much more like, "The Dems will sell me out to make a buck, I gotta go out and actually be the change I want to see in the world."

Young folks who are experiencing disillusion -- don't give in to despair. You can make a meaningful difference in lives. Build communities, engage in mutual aid, whatever.

j45 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Well said.

Where people are waiting for change and the movement, they don’t realize they are the change and the movement.

throawaywpg 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yeah, I was disillusioned with the establishment left, so I just looked for the non-establishment left (but not so non-establishment that they idolized the Soviets).

DonHopkins 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I never imagined I'd see a black president, same sex marriage, or cannabis legalization in my lifetime!

Now would be a terrible time to become disillusioned and despairing, after winning all those important battles. It proves that idealism works, and we really need it for current and future battles! It's the nihilistic disillusioned people who are CAUSING all the problems.

In so many aspects of life, I've noticed how there's always something devastatingly discouraging that happens right before any major successful breakthrough.

It's as if God's being a dick, and always throws something profoundly disheartening at you right on the precipice of success, just so he can laugh at you for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I now recognize that as a sign I'm just about to succeed, and shouldn't give up no matter what.

We are living through that kind of historic transition right now, watching MAGA finally turn on Trump. Don't fuck it up by giving up now!

Braxton1980 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both racism against Blacks and homophobia has been significantly reduced when comparing previous decades to today.

Doesn't that show younger generations have a markable improvement in "being good"?

const_cast 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yes but you see, now we have a trans person in some sport somewhere who did kind of okay in a competition nobody cares about, and that undoes all the good. Unfortunately, we have to burn it all down and start over.

... or so populist messaging from the Right would have you believe.

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jacquesm 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The way the scientific method works has been well understood since it was first formulated, you simply found out much too late.

moate 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have to say, sample size of 2, but as we get older my wife and I get further and further entrenched in our idealism.

I was a center-left socialist as a kid and I'm a full blown anarchist in my 40's so, idk, "people aren't a monolith"?

Braxton1980 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why would finding out that some scientific studies weren't done correctly change any person's views when this is always the case and no one has ever said otherwise?

DonHopkins 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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