| ▲ | zahlman 5 days ago |
| > But some experts stress there is still a difference. > Graham Pearson, professor with the University of Alberta's department of earth and atmospheric sciences, says that the natural formation of diamonds deep underground results in a "complexity" you can't get with the lab-grown variety. Okay; but why should I aesthetically prefer this? |
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| ▲ | grues-dinner 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| A chip of concrete has more "complexity" than any diamond. But somehow I bet Graham's wife isn't wearing a piece of Blue Circle's finest. |
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| ▲ | thfuran 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Though it can look pretty neat of you polish it up and acid stain it. |
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| ▲ | kstrauser 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yep. In the context of what should be a very simple crystal structure, "complexity" is another word for "defect". |
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| ▲ | chihuahua 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | For decades, the marketing message was that less defects = better = more expensive. Apparently, when lab-grown diamonds came along, that had to be inverted: now, lab-grown = less defects = "less character" The whole thing is such an obvious marketing exercise with very little to back it up (as evidenced by the extremely low resale value of diamonds) | |
| ▲ | OJFord 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Exactly, at the same price yes the natural stone will have more 'complexity' and be lower-graded than the lab one as a result. | |
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| ▲ | ghushn3 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have an outdoor fireplace filled with shattered tempered glass. It's like, rough, chunky glass pebbles. It's much much more complex that a solid sheet of tempered glass, and it catches the light and reflects it in sparkling ways. Maybe these so called "complex" diamonds create more interesting light interfaces? |
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| ▲ | monster_truck 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | They don't. If they did, it would be possible to detect the difference with perfect accuracy. Instead, the detectors made by those interested in pushing the concept of "real, natural" diamonds have a false positive rate of 5% looking for the inclusion of things labs could easily add if they cared to | |
| ▲ | jajko 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | If that's what you are after there are more interesting stones than diamonds for that, ie moissanite. |
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| ▲ | DonsDiscountGas 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No reason, which is why he didn't offer one. But of course they have to have some pro mined diamond quote for "balance". |
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| ▲ | gitremote 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| He's an earth sciences geek, so he prefers natural diamonds' relationship with the earth. This aesthetic is irrelevant for most people. |
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| ▲ | cubefox 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Better question: Why should you aesthetically prefer a diamond to cheap glass? |
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| ▲ | recipe19 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You can make some plausible arguments against glass. It scratches more easily and doesn't shimmer as much. But synthetic sapphire is the same league and costs a lot less. The modern-day aesthetic of diamonds is just that they are expensive. They're not distinguished by utility, quality, or appearance from cheaper products. The ultimate status symbol, but also obviously a bit of an issue... | |
| ▲ | function_seven 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Diamonds sparkle a lot more brilliantly due to their high refractive index. (Moissanite is even better, so it should be preferred over diamonds unless I’m overlooking some other difference in their attributes?) But plain glass gems look comparatively bland when used as jewelry. | | |
| ▲ | mensetmanusman 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Moissanite scratchers much easier. | | |
| ▲ | 0cf8612b2e1e 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I need a geologist to explain this one. Moissanite has a Mohs hardness of 9.5. I guess it is easier to scratch than a diamond, but the scratability should be indistinguishable between the two for all practical purposes. | | | |
| ▲ | cubefox 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Everything scratches easier than diamond. Moissanite is still very hard to scratch. | |
| ▲ | function_seven 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh duh. I was so focused on optical qualities I didn’t even think about material ones. |
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| ▲ | masfuerte 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Because they don't look the same. Not even a little bit. Glass doesn't sparkle. | | |
| ▲ | throwmeaway222 5 days ago | parent [-] | | If that's what makes real diamonds special, these shoes should we worth at least $100M https://www.walmart.com/ip/Miluxas-Women-s-Glitter-Tennis-Sn... | | |
| ▲ | kstrauser 5 days ago | parent [-] | | OK, but there's a real difference. My wedding band has small diamonds in it, and occasionally I'll be sitting inside where the sun falls on my hand and casts a million pretty blue and white and red sparkles on the walls and ceiling of the room I'm in. Diamonds (and other gems) really are beautifula to look at in ways that glass just isn't. And manmade ones, sparklier still out of the forge of our own cleverness, are much nicer in my opinion. |
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| ▲ | philjohn 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because the refractive index of diamond is higher than that of glass, which makes it look prettier and "sparkle". |
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| ▲ | mensetmanusman 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It can result in interesting color centers. |
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| ▲ | margalabargala 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Which can be replicated cheaply in a lab, and will be the moment they become desirable. | | |
| ▲ | mensetmanusman 4 days ago | parent [-] | | For uniform color, yes, for spatial color gradients (eg 3D swirls), no. (I don’t know if color gradients are even desirable in the market.) |
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