To be fair I do think that Pydantic leaning into the type annotation story is nice. If you’re really going lean or performant the restrictions work well in your favor. Just like… for the bog standard B2B SaaS the expressivity tradeoff just doesn’t feel worth it.

In a more just world pythons typing story was closer to typescript’s and we could have a fully realized idea like it that supports the asymmetric nature of serializing/deserializing and offers nice abstractions through the stack

Right now Pydantic for me is like “you can validate a straightforward data structure! Now it’s up to you to actually build up a useful data structure from the straightforward one”. Other tools give me both in one go. At the cost of safety (that you can contain, but you gotta do it right)