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FirmwareBurner 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

>women should be allowed to have a space to speak anonymously

It was only anonymous for the women speaking there, but not for the men they were speaking about, hence the justified outrage, since anonymous strangers are gossiping/slandering you in a public online space behind a 2$ entry fee.

Would you also support if men had their own such public "safe spaces" to gossip anonymously about real women with their names? I can assure you it would be shut down immediately.

So then why do we allow double standards where only one sex should loose their right to online privacy?

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mullingitover 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

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akerl_ 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So your concern is that it’s paywalled?

Because like the earlier comment points out, letting anonymous people trash talk real people and name them is a core feature of 4chan.

	▲	John-117 5 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The concern is that it is exclusive to only women, not only allowing, but encouraging them to post narratives about men who are not allowed on the app by policy. How is anyone going to verify the truth of these claims except the man, who is not allowed to look?
	▲	smeeger 5 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		no its not. 4chan is meant to be ephemeral. threads vanish quickly and they arent archived by 4chan.org. you cannot search the website for peoples names and there is no data structure for finding and contributing to a “file” on individual people. and when doxxing of anyone especially a woman occurs it is taken down by any mod who notices it because it could create a huge legal headache. so youre literally completely wrong. weird

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josteink 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess a significant difference is than 4chan is fully public. Whatever anyone says there can be observed by anyone and refuted by anyone. You can’t secretly slander anyone there.

What happened on the tea app were probably not knowable, observable or refutable for those actually being doxxed or slandered.

That isn’t me saying 4chan is absolutely morally in the clear, but it’s still quite a significant distinction.

	▲	fn-mote 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		The difference _for you_ is in the public or private nature. It seems like your argument is based on (1) the discussion being slander (assumption); and (2) the idea that you could refute it if it were public (good luck, low credibility, also most men would immediately respond with vulgar name calling and - at least if anonymous - threats).

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laughing_man 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is more Silk Road than 4chan.

The problem isn't that the site is anonymous. The problem is I, as a man, have no way to check to see if it contains false or defamatory information about me because you can't sign up as a man.

I have no problem with anonymity. But this site exists to allow spiteful women to break the law.

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tptacek 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not earnestly debating anything but the definition of libel, which I doubt applies to this app.

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sigwinch 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, no. You could implement Tea as a ?chan and everyone knows what it’s for. When you make an app that attests to reputation, expect smart people to contradict your claims about enhancing personal safety and security.

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boppo1 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Women never lie

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smeeger 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

tea is more akin to kiwi farms than 4chan and kiwi farms is controversial even among incels

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Yeul 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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John-117 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Men do not believe they have "sexual privileges". There is an entire community (I'm sure quite active on this website) of men who are notorious for not being able to have sex with anyone. Let me correct that statement for you.

Men get upset when they are, as a policy, unable to view the (not fact checked) things being said about them in a public internet forum.

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Der_Einzige 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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jrockway 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, you can't get pregnant and your sex hormone gives you stronger muscles by default. This gives you a little bit more control over sexual interactions; fewer lasting consequences, more control over how situations go.

I am not sure what problems you've run into purchasing sex toys. The retail outlets that sell them certainly don't seem to care who buys them, so I'm guessing you're upset with some past partner that didn't want them used without discussing it in advance? Just discuss it in advance and realize that sometimes your partner is going to say "no" to your desires. It's a partnership, not a dictatorship. There are going to be limits. As for being bi, again... what are the circumstances? This doesn't seem to be a universal problem. Lots of people are bi. We are largely having a good time.

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Der_Einzige 4 days ago | parent [-]

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	▲	jrockway 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		I deny that it's a problem. Young men have invented some sense of how women should treat them, and women seem to disagree. The logical conclusion is that their theory is wrong, but this is the last place that demographic seems to want to go. Ban women from having jobs! Ban women's healthcare! This, it turns out, doesn't make us like men more. Misandry is a bullshit concept created by the manosphere. The Wikipedia article literally says as much. Women are not systematically oppressing men. Go find any conspiracy theory about who is running the world. None of them are ever women. (George Soros, Elon Musk, etc. etc.) I have lived as both genders and I have to tell you, you do not get much benefit of the doubt as a woman. Look at how you're talking to me now! Do you talk to men like that? I'm willing to concede your point that society is homophobic. Everyone is awash in propaganda that the only valid relationship is one between a man and a woman, and it hurts if that's not what you feel and it's what other people expect you to feel. People are largely under-educated and make no effort to look beyond the propaganda, keeping themselves in the closet for decades over this sort of thing (hi!). I am guessing from your use of the term "blue-hairs" that you don't identify as "queer" but it's something you should probably try on for size. I bet that in a more queer-friendly community, being bi doesn't give many people "the ick". But among cishet folks? I can definitely see that.