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dzhiurgis 4 days ago

Gmail takes 3s to load. And HN is a website, not an app.

MYEUHD 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's the discussion being had.

HN would've been considered an app if it was built as SPA

paulryanrogers 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Gmail takes 3s to load

On a 2008 device, in 2025? On a mobile connection?

xyzsparetimexyz 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

How is HN not an app? All the content is user generated. Everything is interactive. What's the difference?

dzhiurgis 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Most of the time spent is content consumption (viewing html documents), rather interaction (which is only 2 simple actions).

da_chicken 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Navigating to a thread isn't much different than navigating to a store.

Upvoting isn't much different than adding to the cart.

Payment isn't much different than adding a comment.

I think the interaction levels are incredibly similar. The primary difference is the amount of images displayed, but that really isn't a significant aspect of web design or Internet traffic in 2025.

dzhiurgis 3 days ago | parent [-]

When you posit like that makes me think doordash shouldn’t be an app at first place.

xyzsparetimexyz 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I suppose that's valid. Feels fairly arbitrary though

layer8 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Document-centric, form-driven websites aren’t traditionally called apps. The Wikipedia website isn’t an app. Web forums aren’t apps. “App” implies that essential parts of the interaction logic are driven by client-side code (JS, not HTML) that couldn’t similarly be implemented by HTML forms.

chuckadams 4 days ago | parent [-]

Sure Wikipedia is an app, long as you think of static websites as a subset of web apps. One might say that makes the term meaningless, I say it's a deliberately vague term because people don't want or need to get cornered by fine distinctions. Otherwise it's endless quibbling over whether things like search do or do not count toward a site being a "real" app.

layer8 3 days ago | parent [-]

Your definition of the term simply doesn’t match common usage.