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schroeding 5 days ago

I think they mean the actual posts on tea itself, not the leaked ID photos.

goku12 5 days ago | parent [-]

Even if only a few women are abusive and gossiping, they will doxx a lot of innocent men. At that stage, that entire app should be treated as illegal and shut down, instead of hoping that Apple legal will find the time to settle each complaint. The entire app is a toxically bigoted concept that gets a pass because the term 'women's safety' is attached to it.

chneu 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm failing to see how this app is legal. States like Arizona have recently passed anti doxxing laws. Posting any information on this app with the intent of social pressure, harassment, etc is illegal in those states.

At the very least, the app itself might be legal using the "public forum" argument but the content posted on there definitely leaves the users in a legal gray area.

I can see the argument on both sides but this is asking for a case to be brought just so the law can be fleshed out.

goku12 4 days ago | parent [-]

> I can see the argument on both sides but ...

I recently saw a screenshot from one of these apps (so I can't guarantee its authenticity. But it's not an inconceivable scenario). Someone posted a man in there with his photo. The elephant in the room is that the man is dead! His ex-wife (with whom he had children) is enraged by this and is demanding to have it removed. Instead of addressing her concern, one of them decides to report her!

Now this may be an anecdotal argument. But when it pertains individual rights and human dignity, even a single violation is sufficient to question the ethics and legality of such endeavors. An important fact here is that nobody has absolute rights. Any rights are valid only as long as they don't infringe on someone else's rights. So, smearing, maligning and vilifying someone cannot be justified in the name of 'women's safety'.

This is one of those cases where you can't find a balance between both sides. One side is objectively wrong. Ruining the lives of any number of innocent men must not be an acceptable compromise for ensuring women's safety. There must be ways to achieve that without causing such widespread collateral damage. Their argument to the contrary is not just lazy, it reeks of hubris and contempt.

goku12 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't usually care about downvotes, but it's alarming when those votes are in support of a bigoted stance like in this instance. I don't support doxxing, defamation or bullying of any innocent person, including women. But why is this utterly detestable act being justified and upheld when the victims are men? Would the response be the same if the genders in that message were swapped? This is just a single example of how unabashedly sexist the HN crowd in general (and the corporate world in general) has become. I hope that the individuals who strike at the opposition to such toxic behavior are very proud of their irrationally lopsided sense of justice and their contributions to a very fractured and bitter society.