| ▲ | 8f2ab37a-ed6c 5 days ago |
| Sad that a common response to "we might not want this app to exist" is "well, if you weren't cheating, you wouldn't have a problem with it". Why do people want to live in a panopticon of their own creation, with random anonymous strangers morally policing, judging each other with zero consequence to them? Don't think we'll ever learn our lesson when it comes to privacy, it will be Eternal September forever. |
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| ▲ | duxup 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think for many people see <cause> and any criticism of something that claims to be relate to that cause is seen as criticism of the cause and that's a full stop when it comes to thinking much further. The irony in this case being that this app operates like a lot of creep subreddits and forums out there with people posting photos of other people without their permission and gossiping / telling stories about them... |
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| ▲ | 8f2ab37a-ed6c 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I agree that you could make a Tea app for every faction's favorite cause, and use "safety" as the justification: report your local communist, report your local infidel, report your local secret white supremacist, report your local secret Western imperialism agent, report your local suspected jihadi, report a homosexual, report a suspected illegal immigrant, report a local adulterer, report an apostate, report a kulak.. etc. chefkiss Witch Hunt as a Service, with a delightful UX, a little gamification, and soon integration with your favorite apps. Coming to an App Store near you. | |
| ▲ | cjs_ac 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think this is also called 'politician's logic': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vidzkYnaf6Y | |
| ▲ | ryandv 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | scarmig 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's a useful app, as it helps men avoid the type of women who'd use such an app. |
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| ▲ | BizarroLand 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | How would you even identify who is on the app? | | |
| ▲ | zetanor 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The app conveniently offers its users' driver's licenses to the public. | | |
| ▲ | oc1 5 days ago | parent [-] | | It's so sad that legally you can't even say this was an intrusion. All data was already public. Probably vibe coded by the ceo who has no technical competence in whatever he vibe coded. |
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| ▲ | jeroenhd 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The leak contains drivers' licenses, but also location information. Someone on 4chan made a map of all the coordinates they could find and posted a public link. So much for the "anonymous" app. | | |
| ▲ | BizarroLand 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I mean, if you were put on the app by an ex, how would you ever find out? | | |
| ▲ | Fogest 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I feel like that is part of the problem with it. Not only can somebody post about you make things up about you. You also may never know. And it could end up silently impacting you. Say you apply for a job and a female HR person checking your job application decides to use this app to do a "background check" on some of the males applying. If she sees someone on their saying you sexually assaulted someone, she probably isn't going to choose to interview or hire you. And she probably won't even tell you why. And the claim against you could be totally bogus. This is the scary reality of an app like this, especially if it continued to go more mainstream. |
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| ▲ | throwawayq3423 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Blaming women for wanting to seek out safety in this way is strange. However there is something to be said about the crowd you find yourself with. If you assume this app to be necessary, I would assume your social standards are not high enough. | | |
| ▲ | defrost 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Tell us more about the lofty social circles that have no psychopaths. What's the bar they cannot clear? | | |
| ▲ | throwawayq3423 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Many women don't go to bars, as one example. And you perhaps watch too much Netflix. Most friend groups do not include a psychopath. And if you date solely based on the recommendations of those friend groups, you can avoid 99% of bad things. | | |
| ▲ | defrost 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > And you perhaps watch too much Netflix. Doubtful, I'm not big on such things. I have, however, scoured decades of court documents and police records (the joys of freelance IT work) and stand by the observation that the absolute worst people can be found everywhere .. including unseen within the most milquetoast seeming circles until that day when acquaintances voxpop "they seemed like such a nice person" statements. That's drawn from real life, not Netflix. Sex pests can easily be professors, judges, police, priests, child physiologists, good Christians, devout Muslims, upstanding Jews, you name it. |
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| ▲ | 05 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The type not into nonconsensual sex? | | |
| ▲ | mystraline 5 days ago | parent [-] | | How fast would an app for men, to identify false accusers, liars, afterwards regret, baby-trapping attempt, sabotaging contraceptives, and other false claims, get shut down for 'evilness towards poor innocent women'? Just as Parieto indicates that the bulk of male sexual assaults are done by a few, also indicates that the bulk of female assaults and claims of sexual assault are also done by a few. Apps like Tea only paint all men as abusive thugs. If this were done, say to black people, this app would have been shut down and a lawsuit in federal court filed. But men are OK to harass, libel, and demean. Good on anonymous for exposing this obvious double standard. And I hope they get sued by everyone. |
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| ▲ | bawolff 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because our entire civilization is built on recipricoal alturism, which requires reputation so that in the event someone defects it carries negative consequences to discourage defection. |
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| ▲ | 8f2ab37a-ed6c 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | We're in agreement. Is an anonymous takedown app the solution for reputation management that enables civilization? If someone is trying to destroy your reputation, on which your entire livelihood depends, should you at least know who the accuser is, how reputable they are, what evidence they have? Do you want to give the Internet a magical button to destroy you on a whim? | | |
| ▲ | bawolff 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I actually agree with you that this sort of thing can have bad outcomes and thus comes with significant risk for abuse. Part of the reason reputational systems work in real life is that the people bad mouthing other people also face reputational consequences if they do so unfairly (over a long enough time period where it becomes obvious), which is something missing from this type of app. But regardless i do understand the appeal. Dating apps suffer from basically being a low-information market place. There are of course the malicious people, which everyone has an interest in removing from the app. However even ignoroing that its a bit of a lemons market (if you excuse how dehumanizing the metaphor is). Its very hard to tell if someone is a good date just from their profile, and people who are good dates end up in relationships and exit the market quickly while bad dates stay in the market for a much longer time. Allowing some sort of review system does solve that problem - its worked in other domains, like uber drivers or what resturant to go to. So i certainly understand the appeal of why people would want this. |
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| ▲ | grokgrok 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | And these apps represent an attempt to privatize the state | | |
| ▲ | octoberfranklin 5 days ago | parent [-] | | To be fair none of this would be possible without the state-created identity infrastructure. |
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| ▲ | ryandv 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | duxup 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I don't think that's a progressive feature. Say something about a federal government policy and Trump super fans will be all over you. Same goes for conversations about Tesla and so on ... It's a human thing. |
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| ▲ | standardUser 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I mostly agree, but it's different for women due to how frequently they are subject to violence and how comparatively defenseless they are compared to the average man. Many women (and men) would gladly give up some privacy in exchange for (perceived) safety. And any man who doesn't understand that is either lying or has never known a woman. |
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| ▲ | 8f2ab37a-ed6c 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | It's fair that men and women have different challenges here. But humans are squishy and chaotic and self-interested, they're not angels of pure wisdom, fairness and justice. Giving someone a repercussion-free button to destroy someone else the instant they feel slighted, vindictive, threatened, jealous, disrespected, is a recipe for disaster. There's a reason these apps have not once worked sustainably, they always turn into a vile cesspool that brings the worst out of mobs. I don't have a fix for this, it is entirely fair to want justice for the defenseless. At the same time I have a strong hunch that there is no problem-solution fit here, at least not with this sort of app. | |
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| ▲ | redeeman 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | standardUser 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Low effort comments are against the site guidelines etc. | | |
| ▲ | noisy_boy 5 days ago | parent [-] | | What recourse would a man have against a woman who slanders him using this app just because X? Any person can have mental issues irrespective of gender. |
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