cool if you want to stay with 30-year-old desktops like fluxbox, but I'm not about to give up my KDE when I have plenty of ram to spare - the plasmoids for system monitoring alone are simple to set up and useful. Yes, I know there are standalone alternatives. Some things (imo) aren't worth optimising.

But to each their own - I'm sure someone will be all into "debloating" like the author.

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gen2brain a day ago | parent | next [-]

I do not give up on my openbox. I use it with LxQt. Now there is a Labwc, similar to openbox. It uses its XML spec for config and is similar. But I am still on X until all issues are resolved. Can I use openbox on KDE now? It used to be possible, I can choose WM in LxQt. Back then every WM had a --replace option.

	▲	LargoLasskhyfv 16 hours ago \| parent [-]
		IceWM got some nice updates in the last few years. I preferred it over Openbox and Fluxbox.

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pshirshov 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Essentially, I do want to stay with PI-PIII-level hardware at most. Things were much simpler back then and the percepted lags were much lower. If I swap the HDD with an SSD in a typical PII desktop running NT4, everything happens just instantly. I'm not even talking about DOS and clean beautiful text mode/turbo vision interfaces. On my Threadripper I wait a couple of seconds for a text editor or a todo list to start.

My quality of life didn't improve much in the PIV+ era. I can play 4k videos now, but the software is much slower, UIs are ugly and, more importantly, inconvenient because there are no native toolkits anymore, just the browser and it dictates the idioms UI designers can use.

Also I want local-first software which does not pipe all my shite to some shady guys, not unreliable plaintext storages somewhere in over the continent.

I don't want to pay subscriptions for everything. I still can run what I purchased 15 years ago but I don't have the option to own anything in this modern world.

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hulitu a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> cool if you want to stay with 30-year-old desktops like fluxbox, but I'm not about to give up my KDE when I have plenty of ram to spare

KDE is slow. Fvwm is much faster.

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LargoLasskhyfv 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hrrm. That may still be the case, but on modern systems it doesn't really matter anymore. By modern systems I mean anything since about 2010 with enough RAM. On such systems, even end-of-life/support Intel Kaby Lake Core-I5/7(t(35Watt)) with 4 or 8 cores, and 32GB RAM I couldn't care less about Plasma(KDE), even when they are downclocked to 800Mhz mostly.

On more modern systems even less so.

I'd like to see a demonstration of that fastness, which translates into tangible usability benefits. Not some synthetic microbenchmarking shit.

I tried it, because I still know FVWM2. Was refreshing for a while, felt good because I still could 'do it', but that's it.

The only things I can imagine profiting from it would be running stuff which is at the limit for your physical RAM, where every wasted Megabyte decides between swapping to death, or running through smoothly. But then there is IceWM, which is good enough for such cases. With the exception of FVWMs excellent handling of large virtual desktops.

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Zardoz84 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

What drug do you take ?

	▲	signa11 20 hours ago \| parent [-]
		have you even tried it ? it can probably fit in the entire cpu-cache, and run circles around the likes of kde/gnome/…