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motorest 4 days ago

> Right , just to remind that China is the country that supports Proxy wars with west (...)

The current US administration directly and very overtly threatens two NATO members with invasion and annexation.

I personally can't interpret Trump administration's insistence on supporting Russia on all fronts alongside its enthusiastic push to completely cut military support for Ukraine as anything other than something far more damaging to the collective west's protection than whatever support China or even North Korea is providing to Russia.

There is no way to spin this: the US is the biggest threat to the collective west, not only by reneging on their obligations towards their allies in general and NATO in particular but also by it's clear and very overt threats.

vimy 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

China is actively supporting the Russian army. They don't want Russia to lose. The Russians won't stop in Ukraine. It can't be more clear than this which country is a greater danger to the West.

> Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told the European Union’s top diplomat that Beijing can’t accept Russia losing its war against Ukraine as this could allow the United States to turn its full attention to China, an official briefed on the talks said, contradicting Beijing’s public position of neutrality in the conflict. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/04/europe/china-ukraine-eu-w...

motorest 4 days ago | parent [-]

> China is actively supporting the Russian army. They don't want Russia to lose. It can't be more clear than this which country is a greater danger to the West.

The Trump administration is overtly cutting support from Ukraine while pressuring Ukraine to capitulate to Russia. At the same time it's also pushing for sanctions to be lifted and economic times with Russia to be normalized. Trump went to the extreme of pressuring the G7 to admit back Russia.

What do you call that?

China supporting glorified golf cars doesn't hold a candle to the damage that the US has done to peace in Europe and the collective west's interests in security.

vimy 4 days ago | parent [-]

The US is in fact increasing support right now. Trump lost his patience with Putin.

You also underestimate the Chinese support. The war would have been over in 2023 if it wasn't for China.

> The discovery of a Russian decoy drone made up entirely of Chinese parts is another indication of the growing wartime relationship between Moscow and Beijing. ... Beyond components, China appears to have provided Russia with at least some complete weapons systems. In May, we reported that Russia was using a new Chinese laser system to shoot down Ukrainian drones. https://www.twz.com/news-features/new-russian-drone-made-com...

rob_c 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Grow up. The US is posturing compared to China that puts boots on the ground and fires at ships belonging to "allies".