| ▲ | mrcslws a day ago |
| From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month"
https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used". |
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| ▲ | bayindirh a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| > The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used". Yes, but it doesn't bring in the sweet promotion home, unfortunately. Ironically, if 99% of them doesn't see any traffic, you can scale back the infra, run it in 2 VMs, and make sure a single person can keep it up as a side quest, just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). This beancounting really makes me sad. |
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| ▲ | quesera a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Configuring a static set of redirects would take a couple hours to set up, and literally zero maintenance forever. Amazon should volunteer a free-tier EC2 instance to help Google in their time of economic struggles. | | |
| ▲ | bayindirh a day ago | parent [-] | | This is what I mean, actually. If they’re so inclined, Oracle has an always free tier with ample resources. They can use that one, too. |
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| ▲ | socalgal2 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If they wanted the sweat promotion they could add an interstitial. Yes, people would complain, but at least the old links would not stop working. | |
| ▲ | ahstilde a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). Doing things for fun isn't in Google's remit | | |
| ▲ | kevindamm a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Alas, it was, once upon a time. | |
| ▲ | morkalork a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Then they shouldn't have offered it as a free service in the first place. It's like that discussion about how Google in all its 2-ton ADHD gorilla glory will enter an industry, offer a (near) free service or product, decimate all competition, then decide its not worth it and shutdown. Leaving a desolate crater behind of ruined businesses, angry and abandoned users. | | |
| ▲ | jsperson a day ago | parent [-] | | I’m still sore about reader. Gap has never been filled for me. |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | It used to be. AdSense came from 20% time! |
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| ▲ | kmeisthax a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | HPsquared a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Indeed. I've probably looked at less than 1% of my family photos this month but I still want to keep them. |
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| ▲ | sltkr a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I bet 99% of URLs that exist on the public web had no activity last month. Might as well delete the entire WWW because it's obviously worthless. |
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| ▲ | fizx a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Don't be confused! That's not how they made the decision; it's how they're selling it. |
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| ▲ | esafak a day ago | parent [-] | | So how did they decide? | | |
| ▲ | chneu 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | new person got hired after old person left. new person says "we can save x% by shutting down these links. 99% arent used" and the new boss that's only been there for 6 months says "yeah sure". Why does google kill any project? the people who made it moved on, the new people dont care because it doesn't make their resume look any better. basically nobody wants to own this service and it requires upkeep to maintain it alongside other google services. google's history shows a clear choice to reward new projects, not old ones. https://killedbygoogle.com/ | |
| ▲ | nemomarx a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I expect cost on a budget sheet, then an analysis was done about the impact of shutting it down | | |
| ▲ | sltkr a day ago | parent [-] | | You can't get promoted at Google for not changing anything. |
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| ▲ | ratg13 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They launched Firebase Dynamic Links and someone didn't like the overlap. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| From Google's perspective, the question is "How many ads are we selling on these links" and if it's near zero, that's the value to them. |
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| ▲ | firefax a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" Better to have a short URL and not need it, than need a short URL and not have it IMO. |
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| ▲ | esafak a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What fraction of indexed Google sites, Youtube videos, or Google Photos were retrieved in the last month? Think of the cost savings! |
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| ▲ | nomel a day ago | parent [-] | | Youtube already does this, to some extent, by slowly reduce the quality of your videos, if they're not accessed frequently enough. Many videos I uploaded in 4k are now only available in 480p, after about a decade. |
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| ▲ | handsclean a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don’t think they’re actually that dumb. I think the dirty secret behind “data driven decision making” is managers don’t want data to tell them what to do, they want “data” to make even the idea of disagreeing with them look objectively wrong and stupid. |
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| ▲ | HPsquared a day ago | parent [-] | | It's a bit like the the difference between "rule of law" and "rule by law" (aka legalism). It's less "data-driven decisions", more "how to lie with statistics". |
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| ▲ | FredPret a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "Data-driven decision making" |