I support the anti-porn feminists resisting the capitalist commodification of the female body, yes.

What moral system do you advocate? Laissez-faire?

I advocate for a moral system in which each individual has total ownership of their body and can do with it and put into it what they want, for the most part. There are always edge cases, and I of course cannot account for them all, so it is more of a rule of thumb. If someone is doing something that is not hurting me or anyone else, it’s not my fucking business.

You advocate for taking ownership over women’s bodies, because clearly you know best apparently?

	▲	throwpoaster 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You advocate for the total atomization of society down to lone individuals whose sole moral precept is not to harm each other during free economic exchanges. The game theory of this social theory is badly flawed. People who adhere to it will always serve those who form groups and enforce in-out distinctions.

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Tadpole9181 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm sorry, did you just in one breathe say we need payment processors to enforce an arbitrary morality and then in the next breathe criticize laissez-faire morality?

And what if, tomorrow, the payment processors capitulate with a new morality? They decide women politicians shouldn't be allowed to take donations, for instance?

Sex workers should be better supported and the markets cleansed via strict regulation of the labor and how it's treated, and strong unions.

Payment processors making a shady porn underground using backdoor finances, even more than it already is, will do nothing but make this problem worse.

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throwpoaster 17 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not saying morality is arbitrary, no. I'm saying that commodifying human bodies is reprehensible and your advocacy for same is shameful.

Live sex work already involves existing payment processors.

Porn addicts are definitionally addicted to fantasy. I wish you luck with the rest of your comment.

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bavent 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Really? Most blue collar labor essentially involves selling your body in much worse ways, taking many good years off one’s life in a lot of cases, especially compared to selling sex videos on OnlyFans, or engaging in legal, regulated, protected prostitution. It is essentially commodifying human bodies, do you have a moral issue with this as well?

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some_furry 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Porn addicts aren't a real thing.

There is scientific consensus on this!

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/2018...

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Tadpole9181 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Shameful that I respect women as equal adults who have a right to have autonomy, and desire strict laws to guarantee their safety alongside an organization of their own labor dedicated to their fair compensation and safe, respectable treatment?

Truly, the horror!

Is infantilizing women as incapable of making their own choices better? Should we also take away their credit cards because they just can't be trusted? Yes, reductio ad absurdum, but I hope you can see the point I'm making.

You rate limit loans to mitigate harm potential, you don't ban them outright.

Most manual labor takes a toll on the body, so we make OSHA and do our best to make sure employers are minimizing how bad it gets. You don't ban manual labor.

Sex, and porn, are normal affairs. Protect the people involved and elevate the working class. Don't drive them into an even shadier, less controlled market.

Unfortunately, I'm fully aware I can't convince you.