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ksec 4 days ago

US has been a reliable partner post WWII for 95%+ of the time. Making Trump administration representing 100+ years of US history isn't exactly a fair comparison.

motorest 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> US has been a reliable partner post WWII for 95%+ of the time.

The current US administration has been threatening two separate NATO allies with invasion and annexation.

Not even Russia, with their daily Russian last warnings of nuclear Armageddon, dare being that hostile.

ezst 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, that ship sailed the second time Americans voted for him.

maxdo 4 days ago | parent [-]

Sure , trump administration trying to protect associate members of eu is not as good partner as China who directly support Russia , Iran and other country trying to wipe west, very logical

ezst 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, trump administration threatening members of the EU of war (economic or territorial) counts as "trying to protect". No dissonance in that whatsoever.

rob_c 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't worry they're just upset that the cheap toys from foxcon suicide plants are going to get out of reach. Once everything dies down the people complaining will find something else to moan about. Prices will normalise regardless of where things are manufactured that's the result of supply and demand. If people aren't willing to pay a bit extra maybe they never really needed luxury good X. Ofc there's fools who over optimized their supply chain in the name of "modern economics of growth" and they'll get a wake-up call about stability and not bowing to shareholders. It's just a shame for most that that lesson will be in the form of layoffs and bankruptcy vs a CEO digging deep and personally reinvesting back in the company they're supposed to believe in.

scotty79 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You know the joke. You can build churches your entire life, but screw a goat once and that's how they are going to call you.

Trust is a funny thing like that. You do have to do it all the time, but if you fail even once without extremely good reason you lose it all.

Peritract 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not in the most recent years though. People aren't saying that the US has always been unreliable, but that it is becoming more so.

Averaging over a large window while ignoring the trend is not reasonable.

contagiousflow 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't ever look into the US's involvement in Latin America if you want to keep believing this

bigfudge 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But the signs are not good that the US will become more trustworthy again any time soon. The only back pressure on trump seems to be MAGA conspiracy theorists who look - if it’s possible - even less reliable than trump.

speeder 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you consider all US "friends", that is NOT the case. And not a Trump thing either, or even a Republican thing. USA is quite happy in screwing with "friends", if it will benefit some random lobby.

There is a quite long history of USA doing coups, sabotage, and so on, against its own "friends".

redleader55 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think most people would contest the 100 years you mentioned.

If we look at the military investments US did since Clinton(so, last 30 years), you'll notice a trend of looking after it's own interests before the ones of the world. An example is the lack of investment in destroyers to patrol the seas, while at the same time the focus shifted to super-carriers which are good for one thing: obliterate a single, powerful country.

This is not just Trump, but everyone after Bush Sr.

p_ing 4 days ago | parent [-]

There are 78 Arleigh Burkes completed, six in the build stage, and 15 on order.

There were only 31 Spruances and 4 Kidds.

That seems like an investment in destroyers, and much more capable ones than it's predecessors at that. Argubly more capable than even the Ticonderoga.

But maybe you mean something else I'm not groking.

frollogaston 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Even under Trump, it's been a lot more words than action