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I got it installed last weekend, really powerful mobile OS. I did do about three weeks of research, as I worried that maybe a number of apps wouldn't run on it or needed some form of deep attestation. Didn't find much, OpsGenie and other work apps are happy with the GOS level of attestation provided. Great to have Google kicked off the phone. So nice to shut off the network permission for any apps that only require an internet connection to serve ads. One tip from me, if you came from stock Pixel: You can download the default Pixel sounds and set them up like it was. Have a look for "Your New Adventure" online, the message sound is "Eureka". | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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"Great to have Google kicked off the phone" Except the default browser is Chromium with some changes This reminds me of a recent HN comment I saw that suggested using Firefox was "kicking Google where it hurts" or something like that Like Firefox, this project depends on Google. For the hardware, the web browser and who knows what else It even offers a sandboxed Google Play Store It tries to copy Google paternalism It swaps a Google mothership for a Graphene mothership What if the computer owner does not want a mothership Can connections to Graphene servers be blocked, i.e., are these connections optional or mandatory Even Netguard which works on any hardware and does not require root makes unnecessary connections to ipinfo.io servers effectively giving them a list of almost every domain the user's phone trying to access If the concern is apps that only require internet connection for ads, Netguard solves that problem without root Most apps but not all will try to connect to the internet at some point, even if you never use them The user-hostile design of Android is that apps keep running in the background after they are "closed" (There are crude apps one can use to automate manually killing each process with "Force stop" but no one uses them. This doesn't prevent apps from trying to access the internet on some preset schedule) Netguard will show when apps try to connect and block the connections. It provides DNS logs and PCAPs. One does not even need Netguard to see this subversive activity Try this at home Enable IP forwarding on a computer you can control, i.e., one that is running an OS you can compile yourself such as Linux or BSD Put the phone on the same network as this computer Set the phone's gateway address to the address of the computer Run tcpdump on the computer and filter for the phone's IP address | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> So nice to shut off the network permission for any apps that only require an internet connection to serve ads. For those of us who aren't ready to cut the umbilical cord to the mothership, you can also root/firewall on normal android to stop this. In fact I choose to not be able to use banking apps in order to cut out the crappy ads. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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