> I have not had the self-recall fix done

Why? Also, isn't that only an issue in early P320s? (at least according to Sig)

> and I'll never chamber a round in it again

Isn't this good enough for most uses? Heck, a long time ago I was trained to only chamber after unholstering AND entering a situation requiring quick response. The extra round not being worth the risk. 17 instead of 17+1 for the 9mm P320, right?

Honestly, this all smells like an overblown hysteria campaign to pump American brands. I would like to see the accidental discharge rate per units in use. This is one of the most popular handguns.

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bayindirh 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

From that angle, we can also argue that losing a door or a plane or two during flights is not a big issue for Boeing and people in general, because it's the only problem known with these planes, and it happens pretty rarely, no?

Heck, even if we believe Boeing, it's the pilots' problem who are not retrained for the new plane which doesn't need training.

Honestly, also this Boeing thing smells like an overblown hysteria campaign to pump American planes.

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i_am_jl 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> to pump American brands

Sig is an American company, owned by a German holding corp, but still significantly more American than any other pistol mfg being considered, Glock or Beretta.

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zokier 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Honestly, this all smells like an overblown hysteria campaign to pump American brands.

Sig Sauer, Inc is an American company, and M17/M18 are manufactured solely in US. Afaik the design is also from US.

	▲	dcrazy 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		> Sig Sauer, Inc is an American company It appears to be the American half of a German-owned transnational company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer The German company and American company are clearly related, given the German company is alleged to have manufactured and shipped firearms to the American company with falsified end-user certificates, which the American company then resold to Colombia in violation of German law: https://www.nhpr.org/post/ceo-nh-gun-maker-facing-five-years...

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joyeuse6701 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Too many examples of the discharge happening in YouTube and Sig gaslighting the public about it and blaming liberals made it even worse. The gun had a recall after fighting the public and then there were still problems. I hear the issue may be tolerance differences between part versions that can lead to the safety failures when mixed together.

The brand damage has been significant, but for the most part isolated to this pistol. Now, if another Sig model has a similar issue in the future and a similar response comes from Sig, the loss in trust will be immense and potentially unrecoverable.

As far as not keeping a round in the chamber, yeah, some people still do that, though that method has fallen into disfavor amongst the CCW types. But even when not ready to fire, there is a lot of time when that pistol could be loaded and go off, I.E. holding the pistol at low ready. Pistol on the bench facing down range as you check something or take a pause, unloading and reloading etc.

Pistols are already incredibly easy to accidentally hurt oneself and others that adding in this variable is just intolerable for most I think.

The gun community wants that gun to work reliably, that means it must fire when intended to fire, and only then.