Probably in general, but not as much as you'd think.

For example as a gay dude, people still hate gay guys (lesbians are far more accepted). But they're just much more quiet about it now, and even if they don't hate us we still "gross" many people out, which affects their decisions due to perception of us.

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exe34 2 days ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately I think lesbians are only "far more accepted" in the sense that they turn on straight cunts rather than repulse them. The objectification and othering is the same.

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wvh 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe, but we can't blame people for what they are/are not attracted to on either side of the fence, just their rational responses to "the other".

And I'm not sure lesbians are "far more accepted", perhaps as long as they fit a traditional heterosexual idea of beauty and femininity and associated behaviour.

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exe34 2 days ago | parent [-]

> but we can't blame people for what they are/are not attracted to

That's an odd thing to bring up randomly.

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topato 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think it's because you said "cunts" lol

	▲	exe34 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Ah the "straight" was the adjective to qualify the noun, not the other way round! I.e. the same cunts who will get disgusted by two men kissing and try to harm them, will get turned on by seeing two women kissing and therefore it appears that the latter are more accepted. It's not kindness or open-mindedness, it's pure sleaze.

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potato3732842 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How much of that is a reflection of or reflected in societal acceptance vs just a figment of differing societal attitudes and standards toward women and men?

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Smithalicious 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure the definition of "straight cunts" is that they aren't turned on by lesbians.

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astura 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think that the GP must not be American.

I noticed in Ireland (at least) the word "cunt" is used to describe an unpleasant/objectionable person in general (regardless of gender) whereas in the US it's a derogatory term for a woman.

	▲	potato3732842 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There's at least four possible parsings here depending on what was meant by "straight" and "cunt" In one corner of the matrix is a heterosexual woman and in the other corner is an ill tempered gay man.
	▲	exe34 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Indeed, its a non-gendered term here.

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freilanzer 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Unfortunately I think lesbians are only "far more accepted" in the sense that they turn on straight cunts rather than repulse them. The objectification and othering is the same.

"Straight cunts"?

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scott_w 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The intersection of straight people and cunts. Not to be confused with "straight people are cunts," which is a different statement.

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lo_zamoyski 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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	▲	exe34 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		The comment that started this thread wasn't about Down syndrome, it was about Down syndrome being more accepted because society is more accepting with lesbians being appreciated as the example.