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SkiFire13 5 days ago

The segfault seen here is not a property of the language implementation, it's just a consequence of the address chosen by the attacker: 42. If you replicated this code in C you would get the same result, and if you used an address pointing to mapped memory in Go then the program would continue executing like in similar exploits in C.

The only reason this isn't a more critical issue is because data races are hard to exploit and there aren't lot of concurrent Go programs/system libraries that accept lot of attacker controlled inputs.

uecker 4 days ago | parent [-]

Whether you can a segfault if you access an out-of-bounds address or not is part of the language implementation. An implementation that guarantees a segfault for out-of-bounds accesses is memory safe.

zozbot234 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

You can't really guarantee that all out-of-bounds accesses will segfault, because memory protection mechanisms are not that granular. (And actual memory segmentation, that did have the required granularity, has fallen out of use - though CHERI is an attempt to revive it.) That's why a segfault is treated as something to be avoided altogether, not as a reliable error mechanism.

What you can say though (and the point I made upthread) is that if a language manages to provably never segfault, then it must have some sort of true language-enforced safety because the difference between segfaulting or not is really just a matter of granularity.

uecker 4 days ago | parent [-]

How granular the memory protection mechanism is is part of the implementation.

zozbot234 4 days ago | parent [-]

It's part of the broader system, not the language implementation. And in practice, systems that achieve this are not in common use.

uecker 4 days ago | parent [-]

You are using a narrower definition than me. The language implementation builds on the functionality of the a larger system. An implementation can utilize the functionality of the overall system and close the loopholes. For example, using sanitizer you can turn out-of-bounds accesses to arrays into traps. This is not a segmentation fault but SIGILL, but it also builds on the trapping mechanism to achieve bounds safety (if you limit yourself to arrays).

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