A 3 month old fetus is not a person and therefore doesn't count under "anyone"

HPsquared 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's a bit arbitrary though, isn't it? I mean, are newborn babies really people? The Romans didn't think so. I don't see the big philosophical difference. They can't earn money or pay taxes, and are 100% dependent on parental care and resources.

And how about sleeping people? I mean they're unaware of their surroundings. Are sleeping people real people? Sure, they'll inevitably wake up in a few hours, if nothing goes wrong. Same as how a fetus will inevitably develop into an adult and be fully conscious, if nothing goes wrong.

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bboozzoo 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Same as how a fetus will inevitably develop into an adult and be fully conscious, if nothing goes wrong.

Unless it dies in pain and suffering hours, days, months or a few years after birth due to a defect that we already know can never be cured or fixed by other means. Somehow societies that are least interested or capable in providing any aid to these traumatized families revel the most in their suffering.

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		That's a special case and the same argument / situation can apply to adults too. But only with extreme caution in both cases.

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Thorrez 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You say that as if that's an accepted fact. Many people agree with what you say. Many disagree.

There's no scientific evidence for what you're saying.

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