| ▲ | withinboredom 2 days ago |
| At least when you tell a human the indentation is wrong, they can fix it on the first try. Watched an AI agent last night try to fix indentation by using sed for 20 minutes before I just fixed it myself after cringing. |
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| ▲ | lonelyasacloud 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Have seen similar issues with understanding things that are somewhat orthogonal concerns to the main thing that is being worked on. My guess is that context = main thing + somewhat unrelated thing is too big a space for the models to perform well at this point in time. The practical solution is to remove the need for the model to figure it out each time and instead explicitly tell it about as much as possible before hand in CLAUDE.md. |
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| ▲ | LeafItAlone 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Consider yourself lucky if you’ve never had a co-worker do something along those lines. At this point seeing a person something like that wouldn’t even phase me. |
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| ▲ | steve_adams_86 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| With Claude Code you can configure hooks to ensure this is done before results are presented, or just run a linter yourself after accepting changes. If you're using something else, I'd just pull it out and lint it |
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| ▲ | aeontech 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I mean... this is a deterministic task, can just run it through autoformatter? Why ask AI to do indentation of all things? |
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| ▲ | jvanderbot 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | One time I explained that I was afraid of tesla full self driving, because while using it my tesla accelerated to 45mph in a parking lot that was parallel to the road and only separated by a curb. The pushback I got was "Why would you use FSD in a parking lot". Well, "Full", right? Same here. It's either capable of working unsupervised or not. And if not, you have to start wondering what you're even doing if you're at your keyboard, running tools, editing code that you don't like, etc. We're still working out the edge cases with these "Full" self driving editors.
It vastly diminishes the usefulness if it's going to spend 20 minutes (and $) on stupid simple things. | | |
| ▲ | godelski 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > We're still working out the edge cases
The difficult part is that like with FSD, it's mostly edge cases | | |
| ▲ | const_cast 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Driving is just mostly edge cases. I've thought about it a lot, but I think automating driving is much harder than automating even air travel. Sure the air is 3 dimensions, but driving is too dynamic and volatile. Every single road is different, and you have to rely on heuristics meant for humans. It's stupid easy for humans to tell what is a yellow line and what a stop sign looks like, but it's not so easy for computers. These are human tools - physical things we look at with our eyes. Not easy to measure. Whereas measurements in the air are quite easy to measure. On top of the visual heuristics, everthing changes all the time and very fast. You look away from the road and look back and you don't know what you're gonna see. It's why texting and driving is so dangerous. | | |
| ▲ | godelski a day ago | parent [-] | | > I think automating driving is much harder than automating even air travel.
This is a pretty common belief. Well supported too since we've had a high level of automation in aviation for decades. Helps that things are very monitored. 3 dimensions provides a lot of benefits given that it makes for a lower density. Not to mention people don't tend to be walking around in the sky |
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| ▲ | david38 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | A parking lot is an excellent use of self driving. First, I want to summon my car. Then, when leaving, if I’m in a dense area with lots of shopping, the roads can be a pain. You have to exit right, immediately get into the left lane, three lanes over, the second of the right turn only lanes, etc |
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| ▲ | theshrike79 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is why I have a standing order for all LLMs to run goimports on any file they've edited. It'll fix imports and minor nags without the LLM having to waste context on removing a line there or changing ' to " somewhere. Even better if you use an LLM with Hook support, just have the hook run formatters on the file after each edit. |
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| ▲ | david38 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why the hell would anyone do this instead of using any one of dozens of purpose written tools that accept configuration files? They take less than a second to run, can run on every save, and are free |
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