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There is definitely thinking among some who CC they're going to be John Wick but "good guy with a gun" is definitely not "totally imaginary". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shooter#/media/File:200...

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Filmatic 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

2.8% is even worse than I’d have guessed.

2.8% of an already rare event is technically non-imaginary, but also definitely rounds down to imaginary.

[edit] on top of that, is it even a one-digit percentage of that 2.8% of a rare event in which having a round chambered made any difference? Yet there are people confidently posting as if it’d be absurd to carry without a round chambered. That’s plainly nuts.

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rascul 2 days ago | parent [-]

That's only active shooter events. There are other cases where armed civilians have stopped a crime. I don't have such data readily available, though.

	▲	JKCalhoun 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Only an anecdote here: a guy I know claimed to have "defensively" used his gun. When I pressed him, it turned out that he drew his gun on a guy "that looked like a dirtbag" when he was staying at a motel. From his point of view his life would have been threatened (he might not be alive today!) had he not presented his firearm.

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jeffbee 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Estimate, if you can, the fraction of the "good guy" episodes that critically hinged on the 1s it takes to rack the slide.

Personally I believe it's a good feature if a guy has to give it a think for 1-2 seconds before blowing away the guy in front of him in the line at Whataburger.

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sugarplant 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

there are hundreds upon hundreds of videos online of self defense shootings, including some where the victim draws second and successfully defends against a shooter. a lot of them happen in brazil too. coming to a thread about guns to state a ridiculous opinion about conceal carry strikes me as something someone mentally ill would do.

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sonofhans 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, the only sensible reply in the thread. Everything else is theory-crafting.

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avalys 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Plenty of people spend time and money preparing for low-probability but highly catastrophic events. Purchasing insurance that covers your home for fire damage is one such example.

The fact that the chance of a well-maintained home burning down is vanishingly small doesn’t make this an imaginary risk.

Thinking about how to protect yourself from violent crime and deciding to purchase and carry a gun doesn’t seem fundamentally different.

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gottorf 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, it makes me wonder whether all the naysayers have any sort of insurance coverage?

	▲	jeffbee 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		There are no circumstances under which my fire insurance policy will accidentally go off and kill someone.

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stefan_ 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Lots of live action roleplayers