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fmbb 3 days ago

Copy&paste between apps should work just fine using this window manager.

I have not tried mwm but use my own 100 line C window manager and I can copy and paste without issue.

Wayland will take 20 more years before it can dethrone X11. And even then we will mostly run X11 apps on XWayland.

tadfisher 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm sorry for not making it more clear, but that was just an example of something left unspecified by the X11 core protocol but instead defined in a standard convention.

An example that matters for window managers would be complex window reparenting policies or input grabs, but that's a little less descriptive of the core concept I was trying to get across.

DonHopkins 2 days ago | parent [-]

We may not always have Paris, but we will always have XRotateBuffers.

https://tronche.com/gui/x/xlib/utilities/XRotateBuffers.html

theodric 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Wayland will take 20 more years before it can dethrone X11. And even then we will mostly run X11 apps on XWayland.

And yet RedHat/Fedora and Ubuntu, as well as GNOME, are leading the charge to drop X support in the next release; KDE as of V7. It may take 20 years for Wayland to match X's capabilities, but it looks like the guillotine has already been rolled out.

A more conspiratorial person than I could be led to think that RedHat is actively working against the viability of a free software desktop, but of course that's nonsense, because they're helping the cause by forcing all resources to be focused on one target at the expense of near-term usability. And the XLibre crowd also aren't controlled opposition intended to weaponize the culture war and make people associate X with fascism, that's just nonsense some idiot cooked up to stir shit.

blueflow 2 days ago | parent [-]

> because they're helping the cause by forcing all resources to be focused on one target

This might work for company-backed projects but not for OSS enthusiasts and power users - they will leave for greener pastures. For example, Linux Mint lives off the manpower that GNOME 3 drove away, Void and Alpine Linux live off the manpower that systemd drove away. There will be some ecosystem that will live off the manpower that Wayland drives away.