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zem 5 days ago

> We were in the early phases of forking the JVM

definitely made me go :-O - how big a company do you need to be for that to be a realistic thing to maintain in house?

cbzoiav 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

A fork can be many things.

I've maintained in house forks of major code bases with a handful of minor code changes while we've tried to convince upstream to accept them.

dcrazy 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don’t need to be big, you just need to handle lots of money.

zem 5 days ago | parent [-]

fair point, I guess this was a high frequency trading firm or similar, who could justify paying a few engineers to maintain a jvm fork

scheme271 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Off-hand I think that there were at least 7 forks/implementations out there. Oracle/Sun, Oracle's Graal, IBM, OpenJDK, Amazon Coretto, Twitter's fork, and Azul. There's also a GNU effort but I don't think that really went very far. I think there's probably a few others that aren't publicly well known for trading firms, etc.

brabel 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> there were at least 7 forks/implementations out there

There are 17 listed on SDKMAN's website: https://sdkman.io/jdks

> OpenJDK

As far as I know, all other distributions of the JDK are forks of OpenJDK. Would love to know if there's any that isn't.

pjmlp 4 days ago | parent [-]

Commercial embedded vendors with RTOS capabilities,

https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/perc

https://www.aicas.com/products-services/jamaicavm/

JikesRVM (https://www.jikesrvm.org) no longer active, but it was its own thing.

Then you have Azul Zing and OpenJ9, which use parts of OpenJDK for the standard library part, but the foundations are their own thing.

https://www.azul.com/products/prime/

https://developer.ibm.com/components/open-j9/

Then you have that mobile OS, which isn't really JVM compliant implementation, but it is close enough for many workloads and libraries to work on top of it.

throwaway2037 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

JetBrains also has a fork that they use to run some (all?) of their IDEs, such as CLion (C/C++) and IntelliJ (Java). As I understand, it has many fixes for HiDPI environments when painting GUI widgets (Swing, etc.).

_glass 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

SAP has also a fork: https://github.com/SAP/SapMachine.