| ▲ | evilkorn 5 days ago |
| I agree with you on Ozzy, but Hulk made a hard right turn into politics the last few years. It was sad to see him do that but his contributions to wrestling stand on their own. |
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| ▲ | dlachausse 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Why is that problematic? It’s okay to be a conservative. |
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| ▲ | metalman 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | he was suspended from the wrestling federation for racisim and bigotry
and if steronoidal guys dressesd up in costumes and tights play acting as "warriors" is conservative, then sure, thats ok | |
| ▲ | spacechild1 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | MAGA is far right, not conservative. | |
| ▲ | mindslight 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Being conservative is okay. But in 2025, right means radical populist reactionary and conservative means democrat. | | |
| ▲ | dlachausse 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | How are the Democrats conservative? | | |
| ▲ | mindslight 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Stability and gradual measured change, the rule of law, belief in American institutions (both government and private), American leadership as a force for good in the world, fiscal and monetary responsibility. Heck the Democrats are even coming out ahead on economic freedom compared with the tariff taxes that change by the month. |
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| ▲ | Veen 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Really? To me being conservative means more or less agreeing with the thinking of people like Edmund Burke, Benjamin Disraeli, Michael Oakeshott, Roger Scruton, and so on. None of those would have supported the Democrats in their current state, but nor would they have supported Trumpian populism. | | |
| ▲ | mindslight 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Please reference the specific values you're invoking to make a coherent argument. Referencing people is a setup for a Motte and Bailey and talking past one another. This especially applies when the first two people on that list lived over a century ago, making it so that views that could appropriately be called conservative during their lifetimes are likely reactionary/revanchist in the modern day. | | |
| ▲ | Veen 4 days ago | parent [-] | | I invite you to read them yourself — or their equivalents from your own country. Conservatives are by nature culturally specific. I'm not trying to persuade anyone of anything. Just giving a counter example to the claim that conservative is synonymous with radical reactionary populism. It is not. Donald Trump is no conservative. | | |
| ▲ | mindslight 4 days ago | parent [-] | | It seems like we're mostly agreeing in a roundabout way. The original context was using the label "hard right" in 2025 and the comment I was responding to equated that with conservative. But if you're "hard right" in 2025 America but still continuing to call yourself a conservative, you're basically abusing the label as a dishonest cover for a radical agenda. I most certainly understand and respect there are political views that don't map well to the two party system. So with that context the last bit of my original comment is more like if you are actually conservative and trying to express yourself within our current two party system, you're voting Democrat. The whole party most certainly isn't conservative, but there is a large moderating establishment that makes its overall results align much more closely with conservatism than what's currently being offered by the Republicans. |
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| ▲ | dlachausse 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’m personally a huge fan of Thomas Sowell. To me, he perfectly articulates conservative ideas. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sowell |
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| ▲ | ElectronCharge 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| A hard right turn into politics would benefit quite a lot of HN readers... The anti-capitalism movement is completely misguided. Capitalism has improved the human condition immeasurably! Every other system tried recently has failed miserably. Is capitalism perfect? No, so let's work on improving it, in the face of robotics and AI! The future is bright, if we go energy-intensive and break out into the larger Solar System! Otherwise, we face stagnation and decline...and likely a global catastrophe. |
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| ▲ | EasyMark 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm a capitalist but I am not a billionaire sympathizer. Capitalism needs curbs just like every human concept ever invented. It's not a panacea. | |
| ▲ | _DeadFred_ 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This 'improvement' is what tech sold us these last two decades. What we got was struggle gig work and tech bro's pushing eachother out of the way to be first to endorse Project 2025. And NFTs, man that sure improved things. Also 'we have to keep what we're doing because if we don't the earth will be destroyed because of what I want us to keep doing' isn't the best selling point. | |
| ▲ | ringeryless 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | i disagree, profoundly.
500 years of nation-state politics can be boiled down to "can we come up with a fair system for self-rule, or shall we have more kings"
the right wing answer is always another king.
hell, lenin was the czar who killed the czar before him and got popular support by pretending to be populist.
what is communist about him and his buddies eating caviar while the peasants starved? fix the system, don't rig the system, and "fuck the system" and anti gubment anti UN nonsense just plays into the monarchists hands. right is and will always be WRONG.
LEFT is just a wishlist, utopian general vector of where to go, but never achieved. there, i fixed your brain, now wake up and spread the word. | |
| ▲ | tastyface 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Fascism will not settle in without some serious mass violence. I’m not sure even the most conservative HN readers are prepared for that. |
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