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Blackthorn 5 days ago

Union-buster. Notorious spreader of racism, misogyny, and xenophobia. He will not be missed.

runamok 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

A good portion of that is covered by Behind the Bastards'coverage of Vince Mcmann: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JLdaMY9n_Oc&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5t...

southernplaces7 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

blah blah blah. Speak for yourself. I'll miss him, probably along with many others, as a cultural piece of my childhood, adolescence and for years still there as a curious part of a changing adult world. If we judged every human being in history by these nebulously stupid standards, there'd be nobody left to like.

cutlilacs 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> nebulously stupid standards

You should listen to the racist recording. It wasn't nebulous, it was clearly and explicitly racist. Most people think he went way too far. This isn’t a case of subtle racism where people might be overreaching; what he said was awful.

Sorry you can't outgrow your childhood, but you should come to terms that the man you idolized was a shitty person.

myvoiceismypass 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> nebulously stupid standards

Here's the quote, talking about his daughter: “I mean, I’d rather if she was going to fck some ngger, I’d rather have her marry an 8-foot-tall ngger worth a hundred million dollars! Like a basketball player! I guess we’re all a little racist. Fcking n*gger.”

Feels fucking gross to even read this out loud.

southernplaces7 3 days ago | parent [-]

Meh. Shitty words, sure, but I've read and heard worse from all kinds of people, enough not to completely dismiss the possible better, and more interesting aspects of someone because they didn't speak nicely or intelligently in every context.

iand675 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There are plenty of people left to like who aren't racist and misogynist. It's okay to update your worldview of your heroes when they behave badly.

southernplaces7 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

And there are plenty of people who can still be liked, or appreciated at least, who also were racist and misogynist, or whatever other moral defect you like. It's okay to show affection for someone who didn't perfectly fit the strictures of what a specific type of virtue signalling labels as correct.

AlexeyBelov 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Look at this user's comments in other threads. They won't update their worldview.

southernplaces7 3 days ago | parent [-]

On the contrary. My worldview has been and still is shaped by an ever changing learning curve of the world's nature. That includes being flexible enough to show some affection even for that which doesn't fit rigorous dogmas of conduct. Can you say the same about your labels?

Justsignedup 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He was iconic. But also he was a terrible human.

tropicalfruit 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

he was known as a master politician

i think it's a bit unfair to judge him on some things he said privately to a friend.

i've said a lot of things privately in my life that i would disown.

but yeah he did a lot of bad things to a lot of people over the years according to some books i read.

throwawaygmbno 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

>i think it's a bit unfair to judge him on some things he said privately to a friend.

I think it must be nice to think private racist thoughts expressed so regularly are just fine. Usually this kind of thinking is because the person can't ever imagine being affected by racism.

I wonder how many people throughout his career he refused to work with, didn't hire, went after, because of their skin color. People aren't famously racist without ever expressing it.

mixmastamyk 4 days ago | parent [-]

> I wonder how many people throughout his career he refused to work with...

No, he was a business partner of Mr. T for years.

mingus88 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think it’s absolutely fair to judge a person as a whole. It’s part of who they were.

I heard Keanu Reeves anonymously donated millions to cancer charities. It’s private. Should we not include this in our assessment of his character?

Or are we just excusing disgusting racism/sexism because Hogan did it with an inside voice?

Alupis 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> I heard Keanu Reeves anonymously donated

Let's not forget some people have better PR firms than others...

archerx 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yea, if it was truly private we would not know about it. It’s 2025 and people are still falling for PR firm tricks.

johnisgood 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it is private, how do you know about it? It certainly is not private anymore, if it was any real to begin with.

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astura 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also millions of lies. Don't forget the lies. If Hulk Hogan is talking, he's lying.

aaron695 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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croes 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The racism was part of his leaked sex tape

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croes 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

In real life people can be both

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fsckboy 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

peter thiel wasn't harassed, he was outed. within the gay community there have been plenty in favor of outing.

procinct 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Can you explain this? Why would they be in favour of outing someone against their will? I’m genuinely curious because on the surface it seems very cruel.

fsckboy 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I believe they feel it is better for the gay community to have more out people, there is strength in numbers and perception of normality; people pretending not to be gay are making gay seem more unusual.

gosub100 3 days ago | parent [-]

so gays don't have agency? they dont have unique circumstances such as avoiding hate crimes? Their decisions can be made by the group?

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owebmaster 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not cruel at all if the person outted is one of the most powerful people in the world

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hackable_sand 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Elon did have a lot of people fooled up until inauguration.

Did Thiel ever disguise his white supremacist views though?

intermerda 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The left doesn't hate him for his electric vehicles. What are you smoking?

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mingus88 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Gawker was tabloid journalism but that doesn’t give anyone else a pass for their bad actions. All parties involved are disgusting

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