It's hard to share a cell phone. If there are opportunities to make them more environmentally friendly (longevity, production processes, better batteries, etc.) we should absolutely try to do those things.

EVs are better than ICE cars, but shared-use buses/trains/etc. are often even better. We can do more than one thing.

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1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

It's really not hard to share a cell phone, you and eg your spouse could alternate days and have one phone for example. It is just a tradeoff you are not willing to make. But, not having a car is a tradeoff YOU are willing to make so your are ok with pushing it on others.

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sofixa 2 days ago | parent [-]

> But, not having a car is a tradeoff YOU are willing to make so your are ok with pushing it on others.

Nobody is trying to take your car away, you scared person who cannot fathom not being attached to a car.

I'm merely saying there must be alternatives to driving. I don't care what they are, they will be location dependent. If you want to drive, as long as you pay your externalities, nobody cares. But it's fundamentally wrong to gatekeep all of society behind a fundamentally inefficient manner of transport (individual cars). It's wrong socially (no social mobility), it's wrong ecologically (cars are still the most polluting way of transportation, even EVs), it's wrong economically (very inefficient), it's wrong from the amount of people dying from cars, it's wrong on every possible measurable metric.

So, alternatives should be present, so that those that wish to do so, or for whom it's better/faster/more efficient/can't use anything else because of mobility issues/can't afford anything else, they can take them. Bike lanes, trains, buses, whatever, doesn't matter.

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1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

Don't be afraid piglet, I won't take your phone. Nobody is trying to outlaw public transport- but there absolutely people advocating for an end to private ownership of cars

	▲	sofixa a day ago \| parent [-]
		> Nobody is trying to outlaw public transport In Anglophone North America, a lot of people ate trying and succeeding in crippling it to such an extent that only those who literally have no other choice use it. > there absolutely people advocating for an end to private ownership of cars A fringe of a fringe, maybe.