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MetaWhirledPeas 2 days ago

It feels like we are still trying to convince ourselves that EVs are a good idea. Progress is too slow and too painful.

boringg 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The best thing I saw was some Kia beating a Ferrari on a race test on instagram. What was great about it was the the commentary. The comments were all about how beautiful a ferrari was and no longer about its exceptional performance (which is the original raison d'etre) - and a lot of nostalgia complaining about how EVs are going to be the death of beautifully engineered cars.

Yes I know the KIA is only faster during acceleration and theres more to cars than acceleration/top speed that ... but the commentary was too funny. It made ferrari look like a car from the past.

tim333 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are some technical issues in terms of changing over in a hurry due to providing charging infrastructure and the like.

azinman2 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Why wouldn’t they obviously be?

p_j_w 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Because some people stand to lose boatloads of money if they are.

amusingimpala75 2 days ago | parent [-]

(To be clear I quite happen to like EVs)

And those people who would lose money are the EV manufacturers. AFAIK in the US EV manufacturers are barely making money even with gov’t subsidies (baring Tesla). They can’t charge what would be necessary without subsidies because most people simply wouldn’t want or couldn’t afford such a product at that price point.

MetaWhirledPeas 2 days ago | parent [-]

I've been looking for a place to talk about this. Seemingly through a potent combination of government subsidies, willingness to embrace the technology, and general STEM competence, China has exploded with quality EV manufacturers. The ICE manufacturers are doomed regardless of what type of car they try to sell.

It makes me wonder about this from a policy perspective. China, more than any other country, has the power to dump products at a net loss to the country for the sake of a long term victory. That's tough to combat.

moate 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I believe OP is lamenting the fact that we still need to have the "EV/hybrids's are better the ICE vehicles" discussion in 2025. That there's a segment of the population that needs a mountain of such overwhelming evidence to be convinced of the value.

azinman2 2 days ago | parent [-]

Ah yes. Sorry I read that comment and replied with mine soon after waking. My brain wasn’t fully on yet :)