> Like the clowns in Hawaii that have extra subsidies for EVs… their power comes directly from burning crude oil.

If all their electricity comes from burning crude oil than they'd get about the same amount of miles in an ICE by refining that oil to gasoline for the cars and an EV by burning the crude oil for electricity, distributing that over the grid to drivers to charge their EVs.

However, about 22% of Hawaii's electricity comes from solar, so the EVs will come out ahead.

Even if we ignore solar and assume the EVs only use electricity from burning crude oil, the crude oil fueled generators should be cleaner than ICE engines, so there would be a significant reduction in total green house gases and particulates.