If I do that search on Google right now, the top result is the National Pork Board (pork.org): ad-free, pop-up free, waffle-free and with the correct answer in large font at the top of the page. It's in F, but I always stick " C" at the end of temperature queries. In this case that makes the top result foodsafety.gov which is equally if not more authoritative, also ad-, waffle-, and popup- free and with with the answer immediately visible.

Meanwhile the AI overview routinely gives me completely wrong information. There's zero chance I'm going to trust it when a wrong answer can mean I give my family food poisoning.

I agree that there is a gigaton of crap out there, but the quality information sources are still there too. Google's job is to list those at the top and it actually has done so this time, although I'll acknowledge it doesn't always and I've taken to using Kagi in preference for this reason. A crappy AI preview that can't be relied on for anything isn't an acceptable substitute.

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pasc1878 2 days ago | parent [-]

Kagi sort of gets this correct.

Kagi search gives the pork board first as well. But note that site fails mtkd's requirements giving temperature in degrees Fahrenheit and not Celsius. The second hit does give a correct temperature but has a cookie banner (which at least can be rejected with one click)

The optional Kagi assistant quotes the pork board, usda which also is only in Fahrenheit, and third a blog on site for a thermometer that quoted the UK Food Standard Authority and gives its temperature

However there is a problem the UK FSA does not agree with USDA on the temperature it puts it higher at 70 degrees C rather than 63

So if you get the USDA figure you are taking a risk. The Kagi Assistant gives both temperatures but it is not clear which one is correct although both figures are correctly linked to the actual sites.

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omnicognate 2 days ago | parent [-]

I don't really see the problem with F and C. As I mentioned, I always stick " C" on the end of temperature queries. It's 2 characters and the results always have the centigrade temps, on both Kagi and Google.

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pasc1878 2 days ago | parent [-]

The OPs main complaint was lack of C when that is the temperature scale used in their country

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omnicognate 2 days ago | parent [-]

Of course. What else would I think they were complaining about? I also live in a country that uses C. That's why I always stick " C" on the end of temperature queries.

It would be nice if they automatically prioritised those results, but that's a search engine improvement and nobody's working on those any more [1]. A half-arsed AI summary that can't be trusted to get the actual temperature right certainly doesn't solve it.

[1] Except Kagi, and even they're distracted by the AI squirrel.

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AlecSchueler a day ago | parent [-]

The point is that the AI just gives you the answer without you having to concern yourself with what measurement system they use in the US.

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omnicognate a day ago | parent [-]

As I said, it routinely gives incorrect data so it can't be relied on for something that matters, like a safe cooking temperature.

Note that we're talking about the Google AI Summary here, not AI in general. Whatever magical capabilities you think your favoured model has or will soon have, the Google AI Summary is currently utter garbage and routinely spouts nonsense. (Don't try and persuade me otherwise. I have to use Google at work so I see its lies first hand every day.)

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AlecSchueler 15 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the point is that the convenience outweighs the accuracy for now! I just look it up with AI then overcook it to be safe.

	▲	omnicognate 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		What was the point in looking it up then? You know, at "I'd rather overcook my food than click the top result on my search", I think I'm done.