Our bz4x has 16,000 miles and the tires are like new. And it’s 400 pounds heavier than a Model 3.

How are you finding the bz4x? I've read some negative things (possibly just seen negative headlines) about Toyota's commitment to electric cars and that the bz4x is a bit of a wet fish attempt at an electric.

Interested in the FUD level going on.

As an owner of a (2014 model) Nissan Leaf, which my wife and I both love, it does seem that Nissan somehow dropped the ball on electric given how good the Leaf still is (11 years later) as a suburban commuter vehicle and how it was a very early electric production car.

	▲	rayiner 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		This might be colored by the fact that we're a Toyota family, but we have a 2024 and love it. It's well-built, trouble-free, and predictable implementation of EV technology that's a cycle or two behind Tesla in terms of range and charging speed. I think the 2023 had some failure modes in cold weather, but the 2024 fixes those. It's fine, not great, on fast charging speeds. We get around 220 miles range, dropping to 190 in January/February when the temperature drops into the 30s here in Maryland. Right now it's reporting 3.7 miles per kWh, which is a tick behind what you'd get in a Model Y. I get the criticism--why pay Tesla prices to fall 10-20% short of Tesla specs? But the fit and finish is a cut above the Model Ys we drove, the ride is very comfortable, and the electronic features are, while more primitive, more intuitive and predictable. We'll probably get the 2025 to replace our Subaru Forester (which we've been very unhappy with in terms of reliability). I hear the 2025 model squeezes another 30 miles or so out of the battery, which would enable us to make the trip to NYC on a single charge, which is the only complaint we have.