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jamesrcole 7 hours ago

A tool that can handle more than one question at a time is useful. Modern LLMs handle that with ease. So it's completely reasonable to be critical of that limitation.

al_borland 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, what’s not reasonable is expecting Siri to be a modern LLM, when they know it’s not. They asked a question they knew Siri couldn’t handle just to slam it. I’m not critical of a 5-function calculator for not one-shotting complex equations like a computer.

While Siri only does one thing at a time, I trust the answer more, because it’s doing the actual math and not just guessing what the most likely answer is, like an LLM. We need to pick the right tool for the right job. Frankly, I don’t think an LLM is the right tool for conversations like this, and jumbling multiple questions into a single question is something people do with LLMs to get more use out of them during the day, this is an adaptation to a limitation of the free tier (and sometimes speed) of the LLM.

stogot 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s not unreasonable

Amazon already reworked Alexa to be backed by a LLM months ago, and they were delayed doing it.

You’re telling me that Apple isn’t capable of the same to Siri?

danhau 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why is Siri being discussed in the context of LLMs and Apple Intelligence? Have they already released Siri 2.0 or am I missing something?

stogot 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The OP is making a point that Apple is behind. They might be publishing research, but it’s completely useless to the end user buying their products.

al_borland 2 hours ago | parent [-]

A plethora of LLMs are available on Apple platforms. If someone wants a chatbot, they can get a chatbot on Apple products. It’s not hard.

Are all Android users using Gemini exclusively? Are all Windows users only using Copilot? Where is the native Linux desktop LLM?

I really don’t understand this criticism. Would it be nice if Siri could do more, sure. Do I have tolerance for Siri to start hallucinating on simple problems it used to use real math for, no. Do I have other options to use in the meantime to get the best of both worlds, absolutely. Where is the hardship?

thejazzman 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Replace "LLMs" with "competitors" and maybe you'll see the point..