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ta8645 15 hours ago

Most of us are guilty of this.

For instance, during Covid, many of us thought that vaccination-status should determine travel eligibility, etc. And we were happy that the government enforced some valid restrictions on people who refused to obey the rules; for the good of society. Many of us thought the government didn't go far enough, and hoped for even more draconian measures.

You might think such measures would have been justified because of the existential emergency. But the current administration believes open-borders represent an existential emergency, too. In both cases, it's the same underlying instinct. Would you have honestly objected if the government had used facial recognition to hold the unvaccinated accountable?

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According to a January 2022 Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Reports national survey, where democratic voters responded:

    55% supported government fines for Americans who refused a COVID-19 vaccine.

    59% favored policies requiring unvaccinated individuals to remain confined to their homes at all times except for emergencies.

    45% supported requiring unvaccinated citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refused vaccination.

    48% favored allowing governments to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, TV, radio, or online publications.

    29% supported the idea of temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to get the COVID-19 vaccine.

    47% favored government tracking programs using devices to monitor the unvaccinated and ensure quarantine or social distancing.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/par...
neogodless 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You literally got a paper card a pharmacy employee wrote on, and just had to carry it around.

No mass surveillance needed.

clutchdude 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> After two excruciatingly long years, likely voters are beginning to question the federal government’s handling of the pandemic,” said Chris Talgo, senior editor and research fellow at The Heartland Institute, which commissioned this poll. “First and foremost, likely voters are beginning to sour on Dr. Anthony Fauci, who seems to have lost credibility after countless flip-flops.

I mean, you kinda tipped your hand here.

hnpolicestate 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep. I lost my city job over mandates. General population suffers from herd mentality.

epakai 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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ta8645 13 hours ago | parent [-]

A lot of the anti-vax people felt like Covid was a made up and didn't warrant being called an emergency. Not saying they were right, but the point is, once you decide something is an emergency, all of a sudden, you're willing to put up with a lot of government intrusion, for the "good of society". That's the same thing the Trumper's _think_ they're doing, too. It doesn't feel made up to them.

bananalychee 13 hours ago | parent [-]

You are trying to walk between the lines and perhaps that's an attempt to avoid being flagged, but it is disingenuous to insinuate that the only objection to the pandemic population control exercise was that it was "fake". There were many lies spun over the course of the pandemic and in most cases it was obvious that they were lies within weeks or months of the outbreak. Despite that people were happy to collaborate with the overreach by snitching on their family members, "friends", and neighbors for touching too much grass, when in fact virtually no healthy individual under the age of 40 was risking much by living normally, and especially not the children abused by the extended freakout. Had cooler heads prevailed perhaps we could have ended the madness after a year, but it had to drag on for two more, and the resulting "stimulus" overspending that dragged on for far too long subsequently aggravated the wave of inflation and cost of living crisis that we're in today. Regardless of our feelings towards illegal immigration enforcement today it is completely insane how whitewashed this event was in comparison, but I suppose that's how it is when the authoritarians are on "your" (general you) side.

And in response to the parent comment: "made up characterization of the situation", you bet. If only the concerned citizens had a consistent moral framework, I could sympathize.