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IsTom a day ago

Steam Deck has (accessible in menu by default) desktop mode that is just KDE with desktop icons and everything.

MostlyStable a day ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think his point was that it's not linux but rather that it's not a desktop, and if it counts as a desktop, then so do the rest of the gaming consoles runnining non-linux, which probably didn't get counted so the 5% would be lower.

samrus a day ago | parent | next [-]

This is wrong. A steamdeck in desktop mode is exactly a desktop. You can write and execute code on it the exact same way you do on your laptop

You cant do that on mobile devices or other handhelds

MostlyStable a day ago | parent [-]

Yes, you can, and yes, among the group of people represented on HN, I have no doubt that a fair number do use it this way.....but how typical is that? How often does the average steam deck owner use it as a desktop? How often does the average user leave the steam launcher? How often does the average user think of it as anything other than a gaming console?

If all you care about is some very technical sense of "how many linux desktop environments are installed in the world", then none of these questions matter. But if the reason one is interested in the "Linux Desktop market share" is some level of interest in how people are using desktop computers, and when/if they are choosing them over competing OSs like Windows and MacOS, then these questions matter a lot. My guess is that 90% of SteamDeck owners don't think about the fact that it is Linux, barely every leave the steam launcher, and were they to be looking at getting a new desktop computer, their SteamDeck experience would not make them consider a linux distro vs. Windows or MacOS.

In case it matters, I think more people should be running Linux than do, I think people over-estimate the difficulty of switching. I want the steam deck and SteamOS to be a gateway for people to switch in more contexts....I'm just skeptical that it's actually doing that more than a trivial amount.

IsTom 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You need to switch to desktop mode to install non-steam software like emulators, so I assume some people use it at least intermittently. And I've seen some posts about people running a DAW (bitwig) on it. It's not going to be many people, but the deck is a legit linux PC if you've got a dock with peripherials attached. Can't say that about other consoles.

samrus a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Great point actually.

And it got me thinking, i already hook up the deck to my tv and use bluetooth peripherals with it. Maybw ill try using it as my daily driver at home

westpfelia a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yea except I cant use my PS5 as a actual desktop. As in my steamdeck has a DE. My actual desktop is 4000 km away. So I have a monitor and mouse + KB plugged into my steamdeck Dock and its no different.

const_cast 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The other consoles don't have the same capabilities. They don't have a desktop, so they're not a desktop. SteamOS has a desktop, and it's one of the most popular Linux desktops, KDE. So, it's a desktop operating system.

throwaway2037 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Wow, I did not know this. Does anyone know the history behind why they chose KDE over GNOME? I promise: I am not picking a fight over those two.

chupasaurus a day ago | parent [-]

My guess is the same reason as with SteamOS: not relying on a single party.