Why would I attack your position? Your position is totally reasonable given a particular set of pretty common preferences ("this" over "that"). Besides, you never asked me to try to change your mind, so why would I assume you wanted me to spend my time & effort doing that work?

What's more, your "position" (opinion) is no more or less defensible than the opposite opinion held by a different person, or any opinion in general, and other people are no more obliged to "attack" yours than you are theirs (is "attacking" really a good conversation anyways?)

I'm just a third party elucidating that this is 2 people disagreeing based on their own personal preferences, which are based on their own personal opinions, and doesn't need to be a referendum on either person.

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jakelazaroff 12 hours ago | parent [-]

You know, I really don't appreciate this coy "I'm not attacking your position, I'm just simplifying it to a tradeoff between liberty and safety and what's that quote about liberty vs. safety again? Ah well, the reader can draw their own conclusions." Your whole "all opinions are valid, who can truly say which is more defensible?" schtick is the last refuge of people who are unable to defend their views.

It's pretty obvious what you're trying to say here, man. Don't piss on my leg and tell me that it's raining.

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ImPostingOnHN 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm sorry that you don't appreciate my "position" of "not arguing with your opinion, because you never asked anyone to help you change your opinion, and because you don't seem interested in changing it anyways if someone tried".

It sounds like you just want to fight rather than understand why different people have different views. Even after someone politely tells you that your opinions are common and your conclusions are reasonable given those opinions, you're still trying to find something to fight them on.

I'm more interested in the latter (understanding) than the former (fighting), so I'll pass, but luckily you'll have no trouble finding someone else on the internet who just wants to fight and doesn't seek understanding.

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jakelazaroff 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, this is definitely the conduct of someone who's "just trying to understand": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44582005

I'm leaving this conversation. Go sealion [1] someone else.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

	▲	ImPostingOnHN 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Yeah, this is definitely the conduct of someone who's [interested in more understanding over more fighting]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44582005 Yep, I agree with you that it is! Note that I fixed your "translation" of my quote here, which I'm sure was just an honest mistake on your part. You see, I realize that you have different opinions than me and others, but that's no reason for you to be rude and disrespectful to others on HN. Your link there is a good example of how to behave instead. That said, I already told you I'm not interested in a fight about opinions with someone who isn't interested in changing theirs, so if you're leaving because I didn't provide you with such a fight... bye?