| ▲ | I'm a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It(nytimes.com) |
| 52 points by lyu07282 18 hours ago | 27 comments |
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| ▲ | lyu07282 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
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| ▲ | DaveZale 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What is this Israeli "self-censorship" claim? BS. Haaretz publishes plenty about the atrocities in progress. Far more than the American media dares to publish. The editorial scrutiny here is minimal at best. |
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| ▲ | nabla9 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Last year Israel's military censor banned 1,635 articles and partially redacted another 6,265 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Israel Pressure, intimidation, and censorship: Israeli journalists have faced growing repression in the past year
https://rsf.org/en/pressure-intimidation-and-censorship-isra... | | |
| ▲ | DaveZale 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | okay! I agree. But Haaertz does a better job than the US media does. Gotta give them that. It's wartime, so censorship is publicly asknowledged there. I might add that journalists in Gaza are often killed. | | |
| ▲ | FireBeyond 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | The Israeli Military Censor has nothing to do with there being a "war" now. They've been censoring news in Israel since the late 1970s. |
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| ▲ | ciconia 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Haaretz is the only mainstream media to report regularly on Palestinian casualties. It has a readership of less than 5% [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Israel | |
| ▲ | frollogaston 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Haaretz is currently boycotted by the Israeli govt since Nov 2024, though not the same as a ban. | | |
| ▲ | DaveZale 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | aljazeera banned. I was reading it daily during the attacks on Iran. They had updates every few minutes. Nothing I saw was not factual, AFAIK. bbc reports occasionally on the Gaza situation. Like this https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4rwrkdlzxo What happened to the US media? It all seems to be recipes, dating advice, wellness tips on the front pages. I am in the US but get my news from elsewhere. It is not an option anymore;-) | | |
| ▲ | transfer92 an hour ago | parent [-] | | BBC is not perfect either: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0k7n6kd8yxo "In February the BBC apologised over "serious flaws" in the making of the programme about children's lives in Gaza, after it was revealed its 13-year-old narrator was the son of a Hamas minister." | | |
| ▲ | NomDePlum 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There was no correction on what was actually said though. It's a terrible state of affairs when who someone is related to, is of more concern than the horrific and constant terrors they and other children have had inflicted upon them by Israel for nearly 2 years. |
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| ▲ | CjHuber 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I honestly don‘t understand how someone can frame October 7 as genocidal. Gaza was a pressure cooker due to Israel’s inhumane treatment and something like this was to be expected, and I my opinion this was provoked to justify the collective punishment and weakening of not just hamas but the entire Palestinian population. For years Netanyahu openly admitted he was “bolstering Hamas” with Qatari cash to sabotage a Palestinian state [1] All in all, Israel’s historical pattern of leveraging crises for territorial or political gain makes it reasonable to suspect that they were less interested in preventing October 7 than in exploiting it [1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/20/benjam... | | |
| ▲ | poulpy123 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > how someone can frame October 7 as genocidal. it's totally insane to frame a killing as despicable as it is like here as genocidal. |
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| ▲ | andrewinardeer 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | like_any_other 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | DaveZale 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | please explain. Gaza has been destroyed. So which country do you refer to? The whole of Israel was formerly Palestine. And the nyt article infers that the creation of Israel was a reaction to a previous genocide. That is false. It was plotted since the 19th century. | | |
| ▲ | tguvot 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
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| ▲ | tguvot 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | it was as earnest as statement that all of it "formerly Palestine". it was mandatory area that included also transjordan. | |
| ▲ | dlubarov 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | DaveZale 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | never forget! Isn't that the rallying cry? You know how to search. Find the map. Know the history. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/12s6lq5/this_map_o... from Natgeo Israeli soldiers are killing not only others but themselves. We have to know the truth, otherwise we're all just lost at sea without a compass, or even a map. | | |
| ▲ | tguvot 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | nick_ 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Quick question: what are Arabs who live in Israel called? | | |
| ▲ | tguvot 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | i recently read paper on their self identification. Rather recent. iirc split is something like: - Israeli Arabs : 30%-40% - Palestinian Arabs: 30%-40% - Palestinians: 10%-15% - Christian Arabs: 5%-10% - Etc : 5% Guy that I spent two years with in same room was self identifying as "Arab, Orthodox Christian, Communist". Those who live in west bank have more permutations of identities, with some of them mostly identifying with their clan or religion |
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| ▲ | lifestyleguru 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | derelicta 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | As you should. But the Gaza genocide does not stem from a religious conflict. It comes from a war of conquest led and engineered by the West to protect its last colony. It would be more like if Americans had decided to wipe out the Vietnamese and replace the inhabitants of Vietnam with Westerners. |
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