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bsenftner 10 hours ago

> I can't find a single open source codebase, actively used in production, and primarily maintained and developed with AI.

That's because using AI to write code is a poor application of LLM AIs. LLMs are better suited to summary, advice, and reflection than forced into a Rube Goldberg Machine. Use your favorite LLM as a Socratic advisor, but not as a coder, and certainly not as an unreliable worker.

eddythompson80 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The entire hype for LLMs is that they can *do* anything. Even if only writing code, that could justify their hype. If LLMs mean Grammarly is now a lot better (and offered by big tech) then it’ll be very disappointing (economically speaking)

bsenftner 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I believe it was Flavor Flave that said: "Don't believe the hype", and the pretty much applies to everything humans do.

robwwilliams 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I support this comment. AI for coding does still involve much prodding and redirecting in my limited experience. Try getting Claude to produce even a simple SVG for a paper is a struggle in my experience.

But for helping me as a partner in neurophilosophy conversations Claude is unrivaled even compared to my neurophilosophy colleagues—speed and the responsivness is impossible to beat. LLMs are at pushing me to think harder. They provides the wall against which to bounce ideas, and those bounces often come from surprising and helpful angles.

Arch-TK 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's absolutely hilarious reading all these "you're holding it wrong" arguments because every time I find one it contradicts the previous ones.

usrbinbash 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> That's because using AI to write code is a poor application of LLM AIs

Then why is that exact usecase being talked about ad nauseam by many many many "influencers", including "big names" in the industry? Why is that exact usecase then advertised by leading companies in the industry?

bsenftner 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It probably has a lot to do with those writing the code are not those marketing the finished software, and between the two groups they do not communicate very well. Once marketing gets any idea momentum going, they will go for it, because they can sell it, and then make engineering pay that bill. Not their problem.

JimmaDaRustla 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed. That argument they made was a straw-man which doesn't really pertain to where LLMs are being leveraged today.

jdiff 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The claim that you made was "if you still don't see how LLMs is changing [the IT] industry, you haven't been paying attention." Pointing out that there is no visible evidence of that change in the industry you mentioned and inviting you to provide some where others have repeatedly failed is not attacking a strawman.

komali2 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Use your favorite LLM as a Socratic advisor

Can you give an example of what you mean by this?

hyperadvanced 10 hours ago | parent [-]

You read the book and have the llm ask you questions to help deepen your understanding, e.g.

aydyn 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Or you dont read the book at all and ask the llm to give you the salient points?

noah_buddy 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Socratic method usually refers to a questioning process, which is what the poster above is getting at in their terminology. Imo

teg4n_ 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And cross your fingers it didn’t make them up?

aydyn 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. If it can get me through 10 books in the same time it takes you to get through 1 I am fine with an extra 1% error rate or whatever.

jdiff 8 hours ago | parent [-]

If I spend an afternoon on CliffNotes, I haven't read a hundred books in a day. This isn't one weird trick to accelerate your reading, it's entirely missing the point. If any book could be summarized in a few points, there would be no point to writing anything more than a BuzzFeed listicle.

aydyn 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Lots of books CAN be summarized in a few points.