> I don't know what you love and call capitalism

Private property and competitive free markets. I just don't like where they end up. I think they need a firm hand to keep from turning into a paperclip maximizer. Maybe that's impossible, but we can't know until we really try.

It's not like other systems have a better track record on environmental protection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

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krapp a day ago | parent [-]

>It's not like other systems have a better track record on environmental protection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

Socialism is the firm hand keeping capitalism at bay. Environmental laws, labor laws and the abolition of child labor, the 8 hour workday, weekends, minimum wage and overtime, disability rights and social welfare (such as it exists in the US) are all due to socialist activism in spite of the free market. The Black Panthers are the reason American schools have free lunches.

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triceratops a day ago | parent [-]

Well great let's have more of that without losing private property or instituting central planning.

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lrvick 11 hours ago | parent [-]

While it is a view that seems to piss off most, I am becoming convinced capitalism and socialism are both equally doomed paths if taken to their unchecked extremes.

An endless game of tug-of-war between the two is the best we can do, and right now it is pulled way way too far in the capitalist direction and needs to be yanked back hard.

	▲	triceratops 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Right? This Cold War era mentality of "If you say anything bad about capitalism, you're a dirty commie"/"If you say anything bad about socialism, you're an imperialist pig" is fucking exhausting and pointless. I don't give a shit whether something is capitalist or communist or socialist. I care about results: prosperity, freedom, happiness, sustainability. Do whatever makes it happen.