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roarcher 2 days ago

> One can defend oneself and others in a myriad of ways that do not involve murder.

As we used to say in the military, "the enemy gets a vote, too". You may find that your non-lethal methods of self defense come up short when the enemy is equipped with a knife or gun. Or at the state level, perhaps a ballistic missile. There have been plenty of victims of those in the media recently. What non-lethal methods would you recommend they use to protect themselves?

If you want your society (and by extension your belief system) to survive, there must be a segment of that society that is at least willing to engage in lethal violence, if only as a last resort. You do not get to hide behind others who are willing to do your moral dirty work and declare yourself morally superior to them. That's like a meat eater looking down on slaughterhouse workers because he bought his meat at the store (I say this as a meat eater myself).

specproc 2 days ago | parent [-]

My society neither shares my belief system, nor uses violence as a last resort.

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akoboldfrying a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Is it violence to imprison a person against their will?

specproc a day ago | parent [-]

Sorry, for clarity. Nor does it use violence _only_ as a last resort. It is an aggressive, violent state and this is a huge problem I have with my government.