i don't know. I am fairly sure that - you have 60 days to make a deal or we will bomb the shit out of you. And then on the 62nd day bombing the shit from their crown jewels makes the US pretty credible negotiator.

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insane_dreamer 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That doesn’t sound like a credible negotiating partner.

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sanderjd 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"You're going to bomb the shit out of us anyway, what's the point?"

They were already having this negotiation, and we started bombing them in the middle of it.

And they already negotiated an agreement a decade ago, and we ripped it up.

It's fine if you think we should have ripped up the JCPOA, or if you think it was good that we joined Israel in this war in the middle of the new negotiation.

But it's simply deluded to think we are a credible negotiating counterparty after this fact pattern.

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ReptileMan 9 hours ago | parent [-]

>"You're going to bomb the shit out of us anyway, what's the point?"

So you are saying that if Iran has said one week ago - we will blow up all of the nuclear faculties on Sunday we will give you all of our enriched uranium on Monday, Trump would have still bombed them this Saturday?

	▲	sanderjd 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm saying that there is zero reason for them to believe that entering into a negotiation with us would keep us from attacking them, because they have done that (twice) and we attacked them in the middle of that negotiation. Don't get me wrong, I think there could be a face-saving announcement at some point, that we've come to some agreement. But it will have no credibility (on either side).
	▲	const_cast 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Would Trump, a known liar and antognizer, lied and antagonized a foreign nation? Yeah, probably.

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burnt-resistor 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You don't understand the difference between negotiation and coercion.