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austin-cheney 8 hours ago

I see a lot of nonsense in the comments.

Here are the facts:

1. Iran may or may not have been building a nuclear weapon. US intelligence says they were at least 3 years away.

2. Iran did not attack Israel. Israel attacked Iran.

3. Iran did not attack the US. The US bombed Iran only because Israel asked the US to do so.

tayistay 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Re 2: Iran previously launched drones and missiles at Israel about a year ago. See https://apnews.com/article/strait-of-hormuz-vessel-33fcffde2...

austin-cheney 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That was in response to an Israeli attack on Iran. If you really want to dig that up then it’s twice now in the recent term that Israel attacked Iran without provocation.

zac23or 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Iran did not attack Israel. Israel attacked Iran.

Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah are supported by Iran.

austin-cheney 7 hours ago | parent [-]

This is a stupid argument. It’s chaos theory. Iran receives support from Russia and China. Did Russia and China attack Israel? No, they didn’t and neither did Iran.

Most of the weapons used by Mexican drug cartels come directly from the US. That does not mean the US supports the actions of the drug cartels.

zac23or 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> This is a stupid argument

Every time I try to talk to someone online and they start with "you are/your arguments are stupid", that says more about the person saying it than anything else. I won't continue.

austin-cheney 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, when I see ignorant people string together hyperbolic word salad far deviated from any fact I get to call it stupid, especially when that stupidity likely qualifies sending me to an unnecessary war while they hide behind their computer, like cowards, getting their news from TikTok.

frollogaston 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Relax.

tim333 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Indeed the US does not support the drug cartels, Iran does support Hezbollah. They are different. Wikipedia:

> Hezbollah's 1985 manifesto outlined its key objectives, which include expelling Western influence from the region, destroying Israel, pledging allegiance to Iran's supreme leader...

austin-cheney 5 hours ago | parent [-]

What does that have to do with Israel bombing Iran right now? I just see people performing absurd mental gymnastics to invent unfounded qualifications for going to war.

tim333 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Iran has declared it wants Israel destroyed, attacked it via it's proxies and been working on making weapons grade uranium. Israel not wanting to be destroyed or nuked has arranged to attack Iran's nuke facilities. Is it that complicated?

austin-cheney 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, it is complicated. Israel says the same things and now its primary proxy just bombed Iran. Iran did not initiate these attacks. Israel did. Iran does not have nuclear weapons and is years away from having them, but Israel has them.

When you peel back the baseless rhetoric this issue is completely one sided.

kurtis_reed 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lol

geeunits 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Has everyone forgotten the music festival massacre?

austin-cheney 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Not Iran related and not US related.

geeunits 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, it happened in a vacuum -- got it.

austin-cheney 8 hours ago | parent [-]

That is what all the intelligence says. I am unclear what you are hinting at.

tgv 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Hamas was installed, backed and supplied by Iran.

austin-cheney 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Please stop making shit up. Hamas was voted into power.

Iran had nothing to do with the Oct7 attack on Israeli civilians. They were not part of the planning, had no prior knowledge of it, and supplied no material support for it.

Actually, let’s take this to the next level. Iran did provide financial support to Hamas. So, did Israel.

* https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...

* https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/qatar-sent-millions-to-...

* https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-security-forces-escor...

belter 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ukraine should learn. This how you do it. Bribe enough US Senators and the US will do anything for you. Even put US military lives in danger.