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HellDunkel 9 hours ago

There is more to be said about the voters than about the military industrial complex here.

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tartuffe78 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The two party system has captured the government, we voters have no recourse at the polling booths.

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ExoticPearTree 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The voters don't decide if a president can bomb something or not. Or, in the case of the US, how much it can bomb.

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seydor 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

the voters cannot be held accountable, but politicians can

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righthand 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The voters can be held accountable because Trump was known to have almost no foreign political experience. So much so that his first term they said Mike Pence would handle foreign relations (a huge departure from reason and Vpotus duties). You don’t get to say “well this guy that has no experience is good for the country because we haven’t been to war yet.”

Then when we’re headed to war and passed all the obvious signs then say, “not my fault this known grifter got elected.”

Voters don’t get to ignore Biden and previous administrations pulling us out of middle eastern wars and creating agreements with countries like Iran. Then voters were warned and ignored that the military and weapons lobbies are creating hysteria so they can go back to war and get that defense spending money back.

The war machine has been behind Trump and Republicans for 10+ years and you missed it because voters believe one of Trump’s lies about not wanting war. A guy who lies about everything has voters convinced.

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k33n an hour ago | parent [-]

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	▲	righthand an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Tariffs didn’t crash the economy because he lowered them back to pretty much exactly what they were before he was in office. Had he implemented his insane plan to keep tariffs high, the economy would have crashed. All the carve outs for all the major industries…I’m not sure what you think was a success. People ARE dying because USAID was scrapped. It will be in the millions by the end of his term. Do you understand how starvation and disease work? It doesn’t happen the day you cut off funding for a tax break for the rich. You must be living under a rock to think any of his actions have been effective. You do get to be held accountable for your vote when you eat the result of letting this mad man into a powerful leadership position. When prices go up, you no longer get to turn around and say “liberals did this”. When they deploy ground troops in Iran for 20 years, you do not get to blame “all of us Americans”. When you get pushed out of your social activities because people hear you support genocide in Gaza and going to war in Iran after tearing up agreements and enabling violations of cease-fires like a child, you do not get to turn around and say “I’m satisfied so you must be too. It’s not fair that I’m being socially prosecuted.” It goes on and on because that’s how reality works if you never follow up then you will never know the effect and the rate at which it happens. Keep plugging your ears!