Libya was pretty developed with an educated population, decent economy etc too, more developed then Iran I'd say.. look how that turned out. State collapse is no joke.

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inglor_cz 6 months ago | parent | next [-]

Libya was also tribal in its core. Nation building takes decades if not centuries and cannot be substituted by quick oil money.

Iran is not tribal, it is a fairly ancient empire with strong continuity over 2500 years. Approximately as old as Rome, but with no collapse.

Iran will almost certainly hold together if the current batch of rulers disappears. It survived even the Mongols.

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ALLTaken 6 months ago | parent | prev [-]

there are private banks and operations similar to BlackWater, like Osherbrand and many others that steal, murder and take capital from the public by re-enforcing external threats and then providing "rescue" via their private fleet to extract the corrupt politicians for 30% to 70% commissions and murder away anyone hindering them. Collapse my ass, it's foreign influence and internal corruption. Like always.

Be neutral and objective, but America, Ukraine and Israel are currently the most agresively operating forces salivating over WW3. Yes, Russia is also quite brutal, but it's not going to profit from WW3 on the stock market!

Who are the PROFITEERS of this?

How can WE fight this war mongering?

Do we need to get active on the Battlefield? Do we need to sabotage Sattelite Networks, disarm financial incentives etc. etc. to combat those who want a WW3?

Only billionaires are going to become richer from a war. Everyone else will eat radioactive food and their DNA will be wiped out forever from the human gene pool. Seem like an Eugenic goal

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libertine 6 months ago | parent [-]

Ukraine is being invaded in a genocidal war to try to annex them and delete them from the map, by Russia. Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum with Ukraine for them to surrender their nukes.

All while Russia is threatning with nuclear destruction of Ukraine and Western countries.

So, how the hell is Ukraine salivating over WW3 and Russia isn't LMAO

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ALLTaken 6 months ago | parent [-]

aggressive and loaded comment you made here.

Actions provoking WW3 are as I commented. You've not made a valid counter argument and have only chose PARTISANSHIP. Which I have not.

I suggest etiquette and neutral speech before spitting hate in internet forums.

	▲	const_cast 6 months ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Nothing in their comment was aggressive, nor was it partisan. I think what's happening is you didn't like what they said, and you didn't really know how to approach that so you just decided to resort to ad hominem, much like a small child would.
	▲	libertine 6 months ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> aggressive and loaded comment you made here. I disagree, but in light of your previous comment, it doesn't shock me. > Actions provoking WW3 are as I commented. You're wrong, they're not. You have pretty clearly chosen PARTISANSHIP by stating a country being invaded and fighting for their lives and sovereignty as the ones salivating for WW3. It's a remarkable backward-thinking exercise. Russia is clearly: - violating International Law, the UN Charter, and many other agreements and memoranda; - all while threatening nuclear annihilation of Ukraine, UK, USA and other European countries; - Attacking and destroying third countries' civilian infrastructures; Among other atrocities and crimes. But somehow, through magical thinking, you deem them as the victims here who have nothing to gain from this. You are not OK with stock market gains, but you're OK with Russia stealing Ukrainian natural resources, their population, including kidnapped children? Let me ask you this: according to your logic, were Hitler and Stalin the victims, and was Poland salivating for starting WW2?