But the GP is not saying the election wasn't valid, they're saying the guy was misrepresenting himself. I hate the US meddling as much as the next guy, but why is the solution to that problem "just endure four years of destruction until he leaves"?

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lenkite 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

All politicians "mispresent themselves". Kicking them out during elections is the way they are thrown out in a functioning democracy. Or do you believe Americans should storm the White House and beat up the President anytime a campaign promise is broken ? And one that is magnified by the funding and urging of a foreign government ? Such actions - which break the "deal of democracy" naturally lead to civil war - which is exactly what happened in Ukraine.

	▲	stavros 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don't care what Americans do, but I'd quite like to storm our parliament and kick out the current government.
	▲	motorest 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> All politicians "mispresent themselves". No. The ones that try to push agendas that go against their programme and are deeply unpopular will often see public protests and even general strikes demanding policy reversals or governments stepping down. Do you call those regime changes as well?

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tsimionescu 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not 100% sure of Ukraine, but most democracies have a legal way to impeach a sitting president. If Yanukovich was committing literal treason, acting on behalf of a foreign country, there should have been a slam dunk case for impeachment.

	▲	stavros 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Our government killed 50 people in a train accident because they couldn't be bothered to maintain the safety systems, then immediately ordered crews to the site to cover everything up with dirt so there would be no trace of fuel additives being illegally transported on a passenger train. The courts found no wrongdoing, and they're still in power. Who's going to impeach them?

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spacecadet 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree with you.

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m000 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> they're saying the guy was misrepresenting himself

You mean like "peacemaker"/"America First" Donald Trump?

> why is the solution to that problem "just endure four years of destruction until he leaves"?

If Americans can wait out for the second Trump term to be over, Ukrainians could do it too for Yanukovych.

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stavros 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah I disagree that Americans should wait it out.

	▲	m000 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Fair enough :)