My experience on the Caledonian sleeper, in a 'room' was quite cramped in all senses (I am over 6 feet tall), and quite expensive aswell. If that had been optimized better, I would have enjoyed it more.

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Freak_NL 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

These renders do not make me feel as if I am even considered as a desirable passenger at 200 cm.

The new ÖBB wagons seem much more practical (and currently exist). A normal sleeper train wagon with stacked beds in compartments is fine for me. This origami concept looks claustrophobic, and the sleeping positions seem to allow for no room for the normal movements you make in your sleep, let alone getting out to take a piss or something.

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mathis-l 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I’m 190cm and tested luna rail’s prototypes. I was amazed how much space I had, even in the smallest cabin. Definitely much better compared to any night train experience I’ve ever had

	▲	ant6n 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Hi Mathis-l, thanks for the shout out!

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ant6n 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, you cannot assume ergonomics from renderings. That’s why we run extensive testing. We tested on a large range of people. In the pods there’s a fall off in perceived comfort around the 95th percentile. Even then, the feedback is overall quite good.

In the larger pods, there’s actually an uptick in evaluation for taller people. Testers were often surprised how well it works.

All beds have at lest 2m, although there are different degrees of becoming smaller at the foot end — just like in aviation business class (with ticket prices 1.5 orders of magnitudes higher).

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matt-p 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Honestly they need far greater economies of scale to drop the price to where it needs to be. They should be competing with a daytime fare and giving you a bed in exchange for having the ability to run the train slow.

	▲	ant6n 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> They should be competing with a daytime fare and giving you a bed… That’s basically what we’re doing, since the capacity approaches that of day trains, the ticket costs should be similar. > …in exchange for having the ability to run the train slow. The railcars can go 200km/h. It’s not super high speed, but pretty competitive in Germany at least.