| ▲ | tharmas 11 hours ago |
| Israel has nukes, so why would they be afraid of Iran? |
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| ▲ | raffraffraff 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| There's "having nukes" and there's "using nukes". https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QgkUVIj3KWY The trouble with a regime like Iran is that they are a death cult. The price the put on human life (their own people as much as anyone else) is low, and they're all for martyrdom. With Iran, you cannot assume it's a just a deterrent in a cold war. You have to assume an increased likelihood that they will actually use them. |
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| ▲ | lostlogin 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > The trouble with a regime like Iran is that they are a death cult. Compare the number of deaths caused by Iranian weapons and those caused by Israeli weapons in the last year. Or 5 years, or 10. Do you have some other way of defining ‘death cult’? | | |
| ▲ | raffraffraff 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | A death cult doesn't care about deaths in it's own population as long as it wipes out it's enemy. A death cult prizes martyrdom. |
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| ▲ | tharmas 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Only the USA has ever used Nukes. | |
| ▲ | djfivyvusn 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not only that, they were planning to give them to Hezbollah. The brain-dead takes I'm hearing about this shitty war amazes me. |
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| ▲ | deepsun 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The main point of having nukes is not using them. The moment one uses them -- they lost. Nukes are good as a deterrent, not good as a weapon. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same reason the U.S. and USSR were afraid of each other in the Cold War. |
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| ▲ | shusaku 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| People are just fear mongering to suggest Iran would use them or give them to those who would. The real issue here is that once you have them, you basically entrench yourself as a regional power. If the regime started falling out of favor, all their neighbors would be obliged to come to their aid to protect the nukes. Also, you would be far more limited in how you fight your proxy war. These are the things the involved parties are considering, not Armageddon fantasies. |
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| ▲ | dismalaf 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | lostlogin 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Would they? How would they deliver it? If they were caught trying to do it, what would happen? Why is an Iranian weapon somehow different do one held by any other country? Countries with them usually don’t use them, and the one that has is attacking Iran. |
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| ▲ | motorest 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | MaxPock 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | They woke up and started bombing Israel for no apparent reason or they are responding to Israeli attacks ? | | |
| ▲ | motorest 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > They woke up and started bombing Israel for no apparent reason or they are responding to Israeli attacks ? You failed to answer my question. Why? Check out YouTube and see the high rate of ballistic missiles thrown at Israel. Those existed for years, and were developed for this exact purpose. It just so happened they didn't have the nuclear warhead yet. I repeat the question: are you really asking why a country would be afraid of a regime which is literally raining ballistic missiles over them? | | |
| ▲ | MaxPock 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | 1.Israel bombed Iran
2.Iran is bombing Israel back How is it supposed to work ? |
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| ▲ | 9dev 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Reducing the Middle East conflict so much makes the entire discussion useless. If you want to point at someone guilty, look at the British who fucked up Palestine big time. Everything since then is a spiral of revenge and spite. |
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| ▲ | snapetom 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | throw310822 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't think you realise how ignorant and racist is this idea that an entire religion and country of 90 million doesn't behave like normal human beings. | | |
| ▲ | raffraffraff 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Have you lived in Iran? It's not a whole country of 90 million people who will shout "Push the button!". Most of them are unwillingly imprisoned under a regime lead by the religious zealots who will push that button, even if it means destruction of themselves and their population. Or at least, that's the assumption that the west must make, based their religious views and their past rhetoric. | | |
| ▲ | throw310822 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Which is their past rhetoric? As for their religious views, hasn't their supreme leader declared multiple times that nuclear weapons are prohibited by their religion? | | |
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| ▲ | sfe22 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It doesn’t take 90 million iranians to push a button. | | |
| ▲ | hajile 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Here in the US, our soldiers insert their nuclear keys and await instructions to turn them several times per day. If even just ONE of the hundreds of pairs of soldiers turns the key, then ALL the nukes get launched. 99.999999% of Americans have no say either. The truth is that Iran doesn't want to take out the holy sites in Israel and if martyrdom were the real goal, then Iran would have started all-out war with Israel decades ago. |
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| ▲ | throw2235 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [dead] | |
| ▲ | ta12653421 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There was a very interesting "street walk video" by a somewhat-famous travelling-blogger, he visited Afghanistan, talked to a lot of people, created a lot of footage of their daily life, asking about the regime etc. This video got blocked after publishing by a political action group / NGO, it came back online only after dozens of other YouTube channels reported that. And yes - this video depicted life of people in a theocracy ;-) | | |
| ▲ | LtWorf 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can cherry pick and show anything you want. I can go to USA, interview a few crazies (and there's a lot of them) and then make a documentary. | | |
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| ▲ | kennywinker 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Isn't christianity the one that has martyrdom at its core? Jesus was martyred for our sins after all. Christians can’t really be trusted not to sacrifice themselves at the drop of a roman helmet. Or not. Perhaps, we understand the nuances of that because we were raised in a christian culture, but don’t understand the nuances of martyrdom in islam because we weren’t raised in a muslim culture? I know that’s true for me, i assume that’s true for any non-muslim who claims stuff about the core of islam. | |
| ▲ | asadm 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You are wrong. Muslims don't wake up trying to get martydom asap. Protecting life (own included) is top-most goal, so much that even harming your body (tattoos etc) is strictly prohibited. | |
| ▲ | kergonath 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It’s bizarre to read that in a world where news have been dominated by American conservatives trying to bring us to the end times for years now. Bizarre, disturbing, and terrifying. | |
| ▲ | Alex-C137 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is an extremely insane take and should be deleted immediately. Disgusting | | |
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