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birn559 13 hours ago

Care to elaborate? A random person doubting things doesn't help other people or bringing a discussion forward.

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fifilura 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I agree with the gp.

Iran is a huge country and USA and Israel has been pointing their finger on this exakt spot for weeks.

Either they dug further down or they just transported things away.

Leaving it all there just seems like a really weird thing to do.

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whilenot-dev 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> transported things away

This implies a tunnel system, or was this transport done in plain sight?

	▲	perihelions 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There's indeed a lot of transport happening in plain sight, https://www.twz.com/news-features/u-s-has-attacked-irans-nuc... > "Prior to tonight’s airstrikes on the three Iranian nuclear-associated facilities, Maxar collected high-resolution satellite imagery on June 19th and June 20th of the Fordow fuel enrichment facility that revealed unusual truck and vehicular activity near the entrance to the underground military complex. On June 19th, a group of 16 cargo trucks were positioned along the access road that leads to the tunnel entrance of the facility. Subsequent imagery on June 20th revealed that most of the trucks had repositioned approximately one kilometer northwest along the access road; however, additional trucks and several bulldozers were seen near the entrance to the main facility and one truck was positioned immediately next to the main tunnel entrance."
	▲	yehoshuapw 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		there actually are images of lots of movement there - so perhaps plain sight is the right answer. hopefully I am wrong

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motorest 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Care to elaborate? A random person doubting things doesn't help other people or bringing a discussion forward.

I don't know if you noticed, but what you are arguing for is in fact for mindlessly accepting unverified claims and extrapolate them to an optimal outcome. This is the opposite of critical thinking, and goes well beyond wishful thinking.

Meanwhile, if you pay attention to OP's point, you'll understand that Iran's nuclear sites have been continuously designed and developed for decades, while subjected to an almost evolutionary pressure, to continue operations even after withstanding direct attacks in scenarios matching exactly Trump's attacks.

In the very least, you must assess the effect of those strikes before making any sort of claim.

Another factor which it seems you somehow missed was the fact that Russia, another nuclear-capable totalitarian regime, is nowadays heavily dependent on Iran to conduct it's imperialist agenda. If Russia was negotiating handing over nuclear capabilities to North Korea in exchange for supporting it's war effort, do you believe Russia now has no interest to speed up Iran's nuclear weapons programmes?

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01100011 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Weird that Iran, an oil exporter with huge potential for solar, would expend so much energy on protecting a purportedly civilian nuclear program. I'm sure it's nothing.

This isn't really relevant but I'm only making one comment in this post so I'll say it here: young folks don't remember decades of Iranian state sponsored terrorism and do not understand the context of conflict in the middle east.

	▲	youngtaff 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Sooner or later they’re going to run oil of oil and gas
	▲	oa335 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> context of conflict in the middle east. Conflict in the Middle East is entirely rooted in Israeli ethnic cleansing campaigns and western adventurism and protections of Israeli interests. If Iran went away tomorrow, the region would still have massive support for violent movements targeting Israel.

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m000 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To be frank, it wouldn't be a surprise for Trump to claim "total obliteration" while having achieved nothing substantial.

This would also be a very convenient way to break the current impasse: Trump can claim victory and brag about US weapons, Iranians can continue their program virtually unscathed, perhaps after bombing some minor evacuated US base for show.

After the dust settles, Iran can withdraw fron NNPT and the next day have Pakistan ship them a bomb. Peace (via MAD) achieved! Maybe we should even give Donald his Nobel prize for that.