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IceHegel 12 hours ago

I voted for Trump. I'd support his impeachment now.

He has betrayed his core by letting Israel suck our country into another Middle Eastern conflict, after promising to do the opposite.

SG- 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

voting a bozo in gets you bozo outcomes.

lunarboy 11 hours ago | parent [-]

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sonofhans 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It boggles my mind that you ever thought Trump had a principled stand on anything. Most of the world has known since the 1980s exactly who Donald Trump is.

hajile 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Kamala and Biden both promised MORE war with Ukraine while already backing Israel in their genocide too.

Trump promised LESS war with Ukraine while having softer backing for Israel and (generally) turning down the heat during his first presidency.

I never voted for him, but I can certainly see why so many anti-war voters did as he had the most anti-war rhetoric around other than Ron Paul's libertarian run and maybe Bernie Sanders (with his primary getting stolen by Hillary).

techpineapple 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

It’s wild to me that in a time when trust of elites is so low that people would vote based on rhetoric and not past behavior.

bravesoul2 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

r/leopardsatemyface

PeterHolzwarth 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I understand what you mean, but we've been in this conflict for decades already. America and loads of other countries have been working to stop Iran from achieving nuclear weapons. Remember that in much of the middle east, Iran is considered an enemy. A nuclear armed Iran would result in the rest of the middle east rapidly pursuing nukes by way of defense against Iran - a country most of the middle east views as a combatant and an enemy.

I won't comment or discuss who you voted for - that isn't germane here. What is important is that America has been working for decades - often quite blatantly, sometimes with the thinnest veneer of deniability - to stop Iran from getting nukes. We're now just saying the quiet part out loud.

einpoklum 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> America and loads of other countries have been working to stop Iran from achieving nuclear weapons.

1. America is a continent. You probably mean the USA.

2. What the US has been working to stop Iran from is being independent of its near-control - which it had gained with the 1953 CIA-fomented coup d'etat against the Mossadegh government, and lost again in 1979 when the Islamist-headed faction of the rebellion gained power. While it's true that the US would not like Iran to have nuclear weapons, that has served more as an excuse to try and suppress it rather than actual motivation.

PeterHolzwarth 10 hours ago | parent [-]

No, America is a country - you demonstrate this by knowing exactly which country I refer to when I say the word. Pop quiz: how many countries have the word "America" in their name?

#2 is not worth responding to, as you didn't feel the need to respond to my broader point: anti-proliferation in the middle east has been a long-pursued initiative by the west and much of the rest of the world for decades.