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arp242 17 hours ago

"But this time it's different!"

IMHO the Israeli policy of punching everyone so hard they're reeling is a massive mistake for Israel in the long term. It works great short-term, but 50 years? 100 years? Who knows what the world will look like then, and being surrounded by enemies is not going to work well when you no longer have your fancy US-backed missile shields and whatnot. The best long-term bet is for normalised relationship with its neighbours, and every time something like this happens that gets set back 20 years at least.

Then again, they had already given up on that with how it treated the Palestinians both in Gaza and West-Bank...

This doesn't mean military action is never an option under any circumstances, but no nation can perpetuate hostilities forever. Whether it's 50, 100, or 200 years: this has a massive risk of coming back to bite Israel hard.

sorcerer-mar 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah IMO the last 2 years (and especially 5 hours) have pretty much permanently shattered Israel's privileged child status in the US. Their actions in Gaza have fractured leftwing support, and dragging the US into this war have fractured rightwing support.

Hope they're building other friendships in the region, I don't see the unquestioning US patronage lasting much longer.

Stevvo 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Would be nice if that were the reality, but it couldn't be further from it. US support for Israeli is stronger than it ever has been.

sorcerer-mar 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It definitely is not. The gulf in support between US politicians and the US public is wider than it ever has been. That's not sustainable in the long run (it is probably a notable factor already in the loss of the Dems' presidential candidate [among many others, of course])

ch33zer 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Among the political class, which is the only group that matters now that senators don't really answer to voters any more

moogly 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Their actions in Gaza have fractured leftwing support,

Chuck Schumer still supports killing and maiming toddlers though.

sorcerer-mar 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Excellent case in point