In what sense? I think in practice there are significantly fewer widely used email service providers than there are web service providers. If you threw a rock at a crowd of people, you'd probably hit someone with a Gmail or Outlook-managed inbox.

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jjav 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> In what sense?

Email is an open interoperable standard, owned by nobody.

You can run your own email infrastructure just fine (I do, many do).

So it is fundamentally different from all the proprietary walled gardens which have a single owner that controls everything.

	▲	woodruffw 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Signal is notably not proprietary. And email is de-facto owned by a small handful of service providers. Telling Joe Shmoe that he should run his own email infrastructure instead of using literally anything actually built for E2EE is an ideological argument, not one grounded in Joe’s message security expectations.
	▲	Bluestein 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		All of which is true and praiseworthy.- Sadly, as with many things, Gmail effectively controls it de facto, nowadays ...