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woodruffw 20 hours ago

I don’t understand how asking for things that are bog-standard is somehow counter-productive. I think the really counter-productive thing here is flogging the dead horse of encrypted email; ordinary people deserve better than that.

> Not even signal has that, and they are above and beyond for a mass consumer product

What parts of this do you think are missing from Signal? Signal has had PFS for as long as it’s been called Signal, and has famously minuscule metadata on users.

jjav 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> famously minuscule metadata

Famously minuscule? They demand a phone number, which blows up any possible anonymity story.

klabb3 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> What parts of this do you think are missing from Signal?

The social graph isn’t e2ee in any app that works because the server needs to route the message. And the social graph is metadata.