Yeah, good luck being the odd one out who wants special individualized contract. This might work for unicorn value level employees that are poached from one FANG to another but not for the average Joe.

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mapmap a day ago | parent | next [-]

In my experience, as a normal non-unicorn employee at a large corp, I was able to have my contract modified. It required advice from an employment law lawyer that cost a few hundred dollars and a couple emails with the company’s general counsel.

You can change these contracts. Hiring people is difficult and once the company has made that decision they don’t want to lose you over a contract clause.

	▲	anticensor 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Some companies are literally legally barred from individualising employment contracts due to active union or government contracts they have.

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kragen 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As an average Joe, I was able to negotiate employment contract changes every place I worked in the tech industry in California in the early 02000s. I don't remember having been faced with contract clauses that I felt needed alteration as an entry-level tech employee in the 01990s.

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lovich 21 hours ago | parent [-]

If you are negotiating terms you are not an average Joe. Average Joe’s don’t even interact with people capable of requesting someone higher up to approve the change. Average Joe’s get given a take it or leave it deal

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OutOfHere 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's worse than that for the average Joe. The offer can be rescinded altogether if one raises too many concerns about the offer.

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kragen 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You evidently have no idea what you're talking about.

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lovich 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Then please provide me sources. What non single digit percentage of the workforce regularly has the ability to negotiate clauses in work agreements?

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kragen 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Like, every single white collar worker?

	▲	lovich 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		White collar workers are the average Joe? And the average white collar worker negotiates terms of their employment? It’s anecdata on my part but whenever a white collar worker tells me they don’t need a union because they can negotiate a better deal, they get real angry at me when I ask them the last time they negotiated a better deal for themselves

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OtomotO 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had every single one of all my contracts (as employee and one-nerd-business) adapted in minor or major ways.

I am good at what I do, but no unicorn and not FANG "level".

But then again, I don't live in the US

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OutOfHere a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I never said I want an individualized contract, but I reserve the right to reject the offer, and I have, when the contract is unreasonable. What I want to know is when exactly to reject it wrt the confidentiality agreement.